Boater227 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I have a network composed of 100% CCR-IIs with a Pixie 16 and Pixie 2. Will likely expand to additional CCPs this year. Using S4 software right now. Should I upgrade to S5? Are the bugs out yet? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith37064 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I have been running S5 for about 4 days now. On the first day I found a bug/limitation in the bulb count. You also cannot expand the RGB channels like you could in S4. This will resolved sometime in 2019. The other thing that I noticed is that you cannot view the fade ramps anymore and this may not be added back. Overall I think v5.2.2 is a worthy upgrade and I am looking forward to seeing what 2019 adds for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I was going to say that every software program (*every*) has a bug somewhere. It's just a matter of when it will be found. (That's my theory, anyway.) That said, I would consider the current version of S5 to be reliable enough for use. I know of one city display in the Dallas/Fort Area that was using it, and hear they had no software issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, gsmith37064 said: I have been running S5 for about 4 days now. On the first day I found a bug/limitation in the bulb count. You also cannot expand the RGB channels like you could in S4. This will resolved sometime in 2019. The other thing that I noticed is that you cannot view the fade ramps anymore and this may not be added back. Overall I think v5.2.2 is a worthy upgrade and I am looking forward to seeing what 2019 adds for it. No fade ramps, so how can you tell the fades are added or did they remove fades as well? JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Uh... fade as ramps? https://www.dropbox.com/s/smcgqhkrua5nqmy/S5-FadeAsRamps.PNG Edited January 5, 2019 by Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith37064 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) Yes... Matt said it's not going to return but it's a feature I currently used in S4. It does look like normal channels have the fade ramps on by default. It's just the RGB channels that is losing that feature from S4. Currently the button does not exist in S5 and I do not see a way to view RGB fade ramps. If I am missing it, please tell me how to enable it. Edited January 5, 2019 by gsmith37064 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I'm confused. This is an S5, RGB channel, with fade up/down red/green chase. I can see the fades. https://www.dropbox.com/s/911movv5r4dmxrm/S5-RGB-FadeAsRamps.PNG Are we not talking about the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Don, they are talking about the ramps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Yep. I'll stay lost then. Thought I was too. Back to my nap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith37064 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Don, they are talking about the ramps. Yes I want to see the ramps again on my RGB channels in S5. Normal channels you can see just fine... just not RGB. This makes it hard to tell where a ramp ends exactly and where to start the next one. As of now there is NO button called "view fades as ramps" in S5. So you kind of guess where the fade ends or starts. It can make the transition to next the color jump a little. Edited January 5, 2019 by gsmith37064 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, gsmith37064 said: Yes I want to see the ramps again on my RGB channels in S5. Normal channels you can see just fine... just not RGB. This makes it hard to tell where a ramp ends exactly and where to start the next one. As of now there is NO button called "view fades as ramps" in S5. So you kind of guess where the fade ends or starts. It can make the transition to next the color jump a little. Could you give an example of what you are talking about? I'm posting pics of RGB fades in S5, and the link below is S4. [Edit: Added both here] S4 RGB Fadehttps://www.dropbox.com/s/q68v0wkmp2fzjpj/S4-RGB-FadeAsRamps.PNG?dl=0 S5 RGB Fadehttps://www.dropbox.com/s/911movv5r4dmxrm/S5-RGB-FadeAsRamps.PNG Are we talking about the same things? Edited January 5, 2019 by Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith37064 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Don that is the high level view for RGB. You cannot tell where exactly the fade ends or stops. If you click the ramp button you would get the triangle ramp view and could see right the dot where the ramp starts or stops. I don't have any room left to post a pick on here else I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Don, I think what they are talking about is the ability to see a ramp display of the three individual colors which S5 does not have. You can only see the color fade of the RGB combination. S4 was the same way when looking at an RGB channel set - it would show the resulting color of the RGB fade - however you could split out the individual channels and see them as ramps. I also MUCH prefer the ramps for intensity levels over a fade appearance. This is particularly true for low level stuff. Almost impossible to see a fade from 3% to 5% when looking at the resulting color 9it just looks black), but fairly easy to see it as ramps. Greg, and I describing it correctly? And Greg, the solution for upload space is to upload the photo to a website you either control or have access to and post the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith37064 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Sent the pic to you Don. That is the view I want in S5 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith37064 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, k6ccc said: Don, I think what they are talking about is the ability to see a ramp display of the three individual colors which S5 does not have. You can only see the color fade of the RGB combination. S4 was the same way when looking at an RGB channel set - it would show the resulting color of the RGB fade - however you could split out the individual channels and see them as ramps. I also MUCH prefer the ramps for intensity levels over a fade appearance. This is particularly true for low level stuff. Almost impossible to see a fade from 3% to 5% when looking at the resulting color 9it just looks black), but fairly easy to see it as ramps. Greg, and I describing it correctly? And Greg, the solution for upload space is to upload the photo to a website you either control or have access to and post the link. That pretty much sums it up Jim. Thanks. Matt told me the ramps will not be back. It sounds like I am not the only other person who used them. Maybe they need to bring it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, k6ccc said: Don, I think what they are talking about 1 minute ago, gsmith37064 said: Sent the pic to you Don. Yep... that's what we're talking about.. Okay. I see it now. @MattBrown - This needs to come back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmith37064 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Don said: Yep... that's what we're talking about.. Okay. I see it now. @MattBrown - This needs to come back. Great.. Glad I raised the concern. Now if enough people request it, maybe we stand a chance of getting it back. So as of now I bounce from S4 to S5. Edited January 5, 2019 by gsmith37064 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, gsmith37064 said: It sounds like I am not the only other person who used them. I use(d) them to build quick fades when it comes to chases. It was a lot quicker for an RGB or W type chase then using the color picker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, Don said: @MattBrown - This needs to come back. Yes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Yes, if I ever move to S5, it needs to be seen. I did learn something from this barrage though, I could see ramps in SE normal view in non RGB lights however my RGB always appeared as the color fade. Until now, I never thought about expanding the RGB and I tried it and see the ramp. I have been sequencing my RGB floods the difficult way when I wanted to get the fades to equal my non RGB stuff. Now I know JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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