Guest wbottomley Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 drums114 wrote:Got it thanks. So the metal boxes ARE water proof.Not water proof, but weather proof.That's a big difference between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted January 27, 2012 Share Posted January 27, 2012 drums114 wrote: Got it thanks. So the metal boxes ARE water proof.Weather-proof is probably a better description. Waterproof would suggest that they can be submerged IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums114 Posted January 27, 2012 Author Share Posted January 27, 2012 That's what I meant - the metal box IS Weather-proof. Sorry about that and thanks again for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad02 Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 In using both type of enclosures the method I like the best is to take one of these (see link) remove the cover, turn it upside down, spray paint it black and then cover your controller and connections. I leave the controllers right on the ground and place a silica packet in them.http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100671084/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053After the season, sweep the snow away, remove the tote and your controller comes right up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums114 Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 BrianC wrote: In using both type of enclosures the method I like the best is to take one of these (see link) remove the cover, turn it upside down, spray paint it black and then cover your controller and connections. I leave the controllers right on the ground and place a silica packet in them.http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100671084/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053After the season, sweep the snow away, remove the tote and your controller comes right up.I saw your intro from your 2010 display- can you send me that mp3? Also does any one have that christmas vacation sounds clip when Grisworld pulgs in his XMAS lights for the first time and they dont work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wbottomley Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 http://www.highcountrylights.com/remository/Audio-Files/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drums114 Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Thanks, but I went to the link and downloaded the XMAS vacation zip package but I don't see that specific sound bite in there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamS Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 A sprinkler at the wrong angle or heavy rain can and will enter the box. That being said because it seems everyone is once again on the attack which I don't truly care. There is a difference in water proof and weather proof. As for the water that has entered my controller was only discovered when changing a few Cat5 cords around. The water was located at the bottom of the door not the box itself, as far as I could see there was no water on the electrical components. The show ran fine rain or shine no odd flickering, nor dead channels, not a single tripped GFCI.As the case itself is hard plastic with no membrane for a water tight seal its always possible to have water in the case in quite a few scenarios. Not saying they are bad but certainly not waterproof. Even LOR does not make such a claim.I know everyone likes to hear themselves talk regardless of point so Ill take it with a grain of salt stating I was on drugs or do not have the mathematical ability to install a box on a 2x4. I'm certain a few of you are chomping at the bit to attack me, so lets get it on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wbottomley Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 No one here is attacking you. Get that out of your mind. Go back and check any holes leading outside of the box. There, you'll find where the water is seeping in and place some silicone to stop it.If you're using the pipe like I have, make sure a drain hole is placed below the last screw hole for drainage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 GoofyGuy wrote: A sprinkler at the wrong angle or heavy rain can and will enter the box. That being said because it seems everyone is once again on the attack which I don't truly care. There is a difference in water proof and weather proof. As for the water that has entered my controller was only discovered when changing a few Cat5 cords around. The water was located at the bottom of the door not the box itself, as far as I could see there was no water on the electrical components. The show ran fine rain or shine no odd flickering, nor dead channels, not a single tripped GFCI.As the case itself is hard plastic with no membrane for a water tight seal its always possible to have water in the case in quite a few scenarios. Not saying they are bad but certainly not waterproof. Even LOR does not make such a claim.I know everyone likes to hear themselves talk regardless of point so Ill take it with a grain of salt stating I was on drugs or do not have the mathematical ability to install a box on a 2x4. I'm certain a few of you are chomping at the bit to attack me, so lets get it on!If you are goofy enough to install a controller over a sprinkler, then yes you are right. At least here in Ohio we don't consider sprinklers as "weather." We get plenty of rain to take care of that (even broke a record this past year)--and still not a drop of water in an enclosure. I guess that LOR should put an asterisk after their weatherproof claim. "*weatherproof only if you mount the controller properly and ensure that you close it securely." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamS Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Never said it was over a sprinkler, thats an example of what was posted last year. I knew this was coming, I almost set myself up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 GoofyGuy wrote: Never said it was over a sprinkler, thats an example of what was posted last year. I knew this was coming, I almost set myself up for it.I didn't say you did. I just stated that fact that if installed a controller over a sprinkler that it would be goofy. Don't you agree? Doesn't seem that scenario applies to you. Please tell me what in my posts about this topic you disagree with. I think you will find that there was plenty of useful information (if not for you, then for others that it might apply to).So as was said before:wbottomley wrote: No one here is attacking you. Get that out of your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis p Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 well i don t have a dog in this heres a possible answer for all(WATER RESISTANT) even submarines art water proof yes i am a 1 year newbie my self Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evan.a Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 drums114 wrote: Thanks, but I went to the link and downloaded the XMAS vacation zip package but I don't see that specific sound bite in there....I'll send William the file, it 74 mgs. maybe he can setup a zipfile to copy from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Young Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Maybe it would help some if we define the plastic enclosures (assuming the door was properly closed of course) as IP 64, which is:Complete protectionDust-proofSpray water from all directions, (limited ingress permitted)Splashinginstead of IP68, which is:Complete protectionDust-proofPermanent Immersion, under pressureFor use on Titanic recovery vehicleDoes that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 I HAVE had my keptel's near a sprinkler head, and outside in downpours, and have not suffered water intrusion. Just lucky I guess. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mair Posted January 28, 2012 Share Posted January 28, 2012 Its funny as I was typing my original response about the plastic box being water i was thinking of addingthe line "of course this doesn't mean you can mount itunderwater in your pond" but i assumed that went without sayin.I have one sitting on the floor of my growhouse that gets soaked at least 10 minutesa day from march to november an twice a day during the summer.I have another between my mistbeds which run 10 seconds every 10 minutes, 6 to 12 hours a day without a single problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shfr26 Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 Jack Mair wrote: Its funny as I was typing my original response aboutthe plastic box being water i was thinking of addingthe line "of course this doesn't mean you can mount itunderwater in your pond" but i assumed that went without sayin.I have one sitting on the floor of my growhouse that gets soaked at least 10 minutesa day from march to november an twice a day during the summer.I have another between my mistbeds which run 10 seconds every 10 minutes, 6 to 12 hours a day without a single problem.Really???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveo150 Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 This was my first LOR year, and mine has the plastic enclosure. I had no water issues after a number of rain/snow storms. Just make sure the door is closed tight, and hung vertically. I hammered one of these fence posts WAY into the ground (which then froze, big plus!):http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=1278562&cp=2568444.2598671.2602631.1305649Then inserted a carriage bolt through the post and into the plastic enclosure, with the nuts inside it. I put a padlock on the enclosure, so you couldn't take the bolt off unless the lock was undone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wbottomley Posted January 31, 2012 Share Posted January 31, 2012 People will not steal controllers. They rather have the extension cords. Scrap copper brings in more money than controllers in thieves eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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