brichi Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 its a sickness, lol. but a fun one make sure you add Ito this post too, they need to fix this, the more DMX you add the slower LOR becomes, not good at all, I cant even program in LOR right now - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed K Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 52 minutes ago, caniac said: that item is for controlling pixels not P10 panels, P10 panels use a ribbon cable. It is possible to run a pixel based show using nothing but Pi's to control your lights (and xLights) - no RGB controllers. Can you describe how you set up a Pi, which is running FPP, so that it can receive DMX signals coming from a PC's Ethernet port over Cat 5 to control P10 panels? What I know: Load FPP on a micro SD and run the Pi with FPP; assign a unique IP address to the Pi (just like every other E1.31 controller). One thing I don't know: where physically are you connecting the wires from the first P10 to the Pi (or to the PiHat, or to the PiCap). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed K Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 58 minutes ago, mwilson6192 said: snagged the last P10 Panels from DIY Express DIY Express is a thriving business. They'll get more in stock and up for sale. Broadcasting DMX via LOR is fairly easy after you learn to set up your DMX universes in LOR's Network Preferences. Using LOR files created from your saved sequences, LOR sends DMX info through your PC's Ethernet port on a Cat 5 cable to your E1.31 controllers. You don't want to (or have to) go through LOR's unique network or controllers to control your E1.31 controllers. And, you still simultaneously use LOR's proprietary USB-connected network/protocol to control your LOR controllers and lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caniac Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Ed K said: Can you describe how you set up a Pi, which is running FPP, so that it can receive DMX signals coming from a PC's Ethernet port over Cat 5 to control P10 panels? What I know: Load FPP on a micro SD and run the Pi with FPP; assign a unique IP address to the Pi (just like every other E1.31 controller). One thing I don't know: where physically are you connecting the wires from the first P10 to the Pi (or to the PiHat, or to the PiCap). It will take me a few to upload photo's to show you but out of the piHat you have a ribbon cable that goes to your first P10, then from it a ribbon cable from Panel 1 to Panel 2, then from Panel 2 to Panel 3 and so on. You won't use a PiCap, that's for pixels and not Panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caniac Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 also the Pi gets its power thru the PiHat (from the power supply), you will notice on my pics I have two wires going into the PiHat that come from the PC Power supply that i use. Pins 1 and 2 on the PiHat supply power to the Pi underneath it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ed K Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 45 minutes ago, caniac said: It will take me a few to upload photo's to show you but out of the piHat you have a ribbon cable that goes to your first P10, then from it a ribbon cable from Panel 1 to Panel 2, then from Panel 2 to Panel 3 and so on. You won't use a PiCap, that's for pixels and not Panels. Ahh, your text and close-ups really helped me. Mucho gracias. My aha moment: the first P10 is connected to the Pi Hat via a ribbon. That's the key part I NEVER knew until just now. So, I'll revise my text-based graphic (I feel like I'm printing with Basic on a TTY with a daisy wheel): PC --------> Ethernet port ------> Cat 5 cable -----> Pi (running FPP, with a unique IP address) ----> Pi Hat (hardware attached on top) ------ribbon cable----> first P10 panel. Then the required ribbon between each additional panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 2 hours ago, mwilson6192 said: Now I'll be forced to learn DMX via LOR (as I want to control everything via LOR). That will take about 30 seconds. And yes, I also will be sequencing everything in LOR. 2 hours ago, mwilson6192 said: I plan on using the P10 panel for a Tune To sign among other things. That's what I'm aiming for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, Ed K said: PC --------> Ethernet port ------> Cat 5 cable -----> Pi (running FPP, with a unique IP address) ----> Pi Hat (hardware attached on top) ------ribbon cable----> first P10 panel. Then the required ribbon between each additional panel. Sounds about right. Depending on you ethernet network, there may be a switch or two and more cables, but you've got the general idea. Then each successive P10 panel has a ribbon cable between the panels. Each panel also has a power connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed K Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Yes, I now use a six port switch. I left that out to simplify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed K Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 My use is as a message / Tune To sign. Plus, I'll use it for educating myself about Pi and P10 stuff this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed K Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 From the photo provided by caniac, the board used to control the P10 boards from a Pi is sold for $13 at http://renard-shop.com/home/48-raspberry-pi-matrix-adapter.html I just ordered it. The Renard-Shop website is not the clearest site about what each of their products is, nor about what comes with each product (i.e., any standoffs, nuts, bolts?). But, the board appears to work for caniac's P10s, so I'm trying it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 That's a good price but it's a kit that you have to build the one K6 recommended was $25.00 assembled . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caniac Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Ed K said: From the photo provided by caniac, the board used to control the P10 boards from a Pi is sold for $13 at http://renard-shop.com/home/48-raspberry-pi-matrix-adapter.html I just ordered it. The Renard-Shop website is not the clearest site about what each of their products is, nor about what comes with each product (i.e., any standoffs, nuts, bolts?). But, the board appears to work for caniac's P10s, so I'm trying it. another source and assembled: https://www.crockettfantasyoflights.com/product/pre-sale-matrix-pihat/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caniac Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Ed K said: From the photo provided by caniac, the board used to control the P10 boards from a Pi is sold for $13 at http://renard-shop.com/home/48-raspberry-pi-matrix-adapter.html I just ordered it. The Renard-Shop website is not the clearest site about what each of their products is, nor about what comes with each product (i.e., any standoffs, nuts, bolts?). But, the board appears to work for caniac's P10s, so I'm trying it. that's because you solder it yourself from parts they supply or from the list of supplies to purchase. www.renard-shop.com is a true "do-it-yourself", Though my piHat is from them I bought it assembled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed K Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 caniac, did you also buy your P10s here: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Outdoor-P10-rgb-SMD-3in1-full-color-LED-module-Scan-Mode-1-4-screen-unit-board/701799_32601471511.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.1c620e56b49xpU ? I wasn't sure from reading one of your original replies to brichi. Or from Crockett? Or . . . . ? Also, where did you purchase your ribbons, brackets, and power connections? 1 hour ago, caniac said: that's because you solder it yourself from parts they supply or from the list of supplies to purchase. www.renard-shop.com is a true "do-it-yourself", Though my piHat is from them I bought it assembled. I did not find the fully assembled board on Renard-Shop site, so I purchased the kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caniac Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Ed K said: caniac, did you also buy your P10s here: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Outdoor-P10-rgb-SMD-3in1-full-color-LED-module-Scan-Mode-1-4-screen-unit-board/701799_32601471511.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.1c620e56b49xpU ? I wasn't sure from reading one of your original replies to brichi. Or from Crockett? Or . . . . ? Also, where did you purchase your ribbons, brackets, and power connections? I did not find the fully assembled board on Renard-Shop site, so I purchased the kit. ribbons, brackets, and power connections can be had from, Crockets, Boscoyo, and diyledexpress. Boscoyo manufacturers the brackets. Renard doesn't carry anything fully assembled, you have to build it. My Renard PiHat came from another lighter for the matrix and I bought one from Crocketts for my marquee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed K Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 Thanks very much for the info. I'll begin to piece together this small build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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