wbaker4 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, Scooch said: Video shows my power setup. http://youtu.be/uFzo0rz-YqE It's private! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooch Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 Sorry. I keep forgetting to check public. Should be good now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbaker4 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Your power leads from the Power supplies to the bus bar must be a bigger gauge, or run additional leads (in parallel) from the power supply to the bus bar. I have never been a fan of those splicers that you are using. Soldering is best. Should have two bus bars. One for each power supply - connecting only the grounds together between the supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) So it looks like you have the two power supply outputs tied together or what is called a redundant mode. These cheaper power supplies are not meant to be tied together as they wouldn't have the extra circuitry for what is called OR-ing, two power source into a single load. You may be getting a dirty power input because of the two tied together. I would recommend completely separating the two power supplies and run one side of the board and injections from one PS and the other side of the board and injections from the other. Edited October 15, 2016 by Mr. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooch Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 16 minutes ago, Mr. P said: So it looks like you have the two power supply outputs tied together or what is called a redundant mode. These cheaper power supplies are not meant to be tied together as they wouldn't have the extra circuitry for what is called OR-ing, two power source into a single load. You may be getting a dirty power input because of the two tied together. I would recommend completely separating the two power supplies and run one side of the board and injections from one PS and the other side of the board and injections from the other. Is the problem you describe because of the continuous pixel string fed from both ends or the fact that both power supplies are feeding it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Just now, Scooch said: Is the problem you describe because of the continuous pixel string fed from both ends or the fact that both power supplies are feeding it? I am going with both PS tied together. I would completely separate the two circuits and that may clean up the power source. To me the lights in the video look like they are fluctuating due to inconsistent power. The butterfly pattern is there but the lights just don't act the way they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 If the power supplies are tied together and they aren't exactly matched then each PS is sending out its current at a different wavelength which is resulting in dirty power. Separate the two circuits and feed each string off the same PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 In the pixel editor do you have the max circuit set to 510 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooch Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 Setting max circuits to 510 made it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbaker4 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) Your configuration was correct as it was set. Put it back the way it was and get the power straightened out. Edited October 15, 2016 by wbaker4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Did you try to use the matrix setup up in the pixel editor instead of the custom feature ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooch Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 3 hours ago, wbaker4 said: Your configuration was correct as it was set. Put it back the way it was and get the power straightened out. thats what I was thinking. I will add another busbar and separate the power supplies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbaker4 Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Looking forward to seeing your success! I know you invested some serious $$$ in this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooch Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 27 minutes ago, wbaker4 said: Looking forward to seeing your success! I know you invested some serious $$$ in this! Damn things not cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 I don't very much that it's a power problem I have a similar matrix I run one hundred pixels zig -zag every 25 pixels no power injection 10 strings like this. I set it up in the pixel editor ten strings ten universes using the the matrix. Prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbaker4 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Have you made any progress? Things working better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooch Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 I got the supplies I need but have not had time to do any work on the matrix. Hopefully in the next couple of days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 (edited) Have you tried to make this Matrix in Visualizer and test it with Superstar or Sequence Editor? I understand you can't use the same butterfly effect but you could just display color bars etc... Just to rule out Power Issues and PE as the problem. Seems like it would just take a few minutes to do. Just thinking... This has no bearing on the issues your having, I was curious as to what the spacing between pixels on the netting you are using is? Alan... Edited October 18, 2016 by default Had a brainstorm of an idea :o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrown1972 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 On 10/14/2016 at 5:40 PM, Scooch said: OK. Sorry for not including everything. I am running as LOR. The config in PE was set up through the PE not imported. The video was taken from what is the side of the matrix so the dimensions are 42 wide by 24 high. Everything else that you stated is correct. I am powering the matrix and controller using 2x300w 60A power supplies. They feed the controller directly and distribute power to the matrix via a multi post bus bar. The power and data are conducted through 14G wire to the matrix. I am no expert by any means but it seems to me that 14 gauge wire is too big of wire for running data. I only use 22 gauge wire for my data. My setup is with a Falcon controller so not sure about the pixcon. I tried using a thicker wire for data when I started but had no luck and it was also 14 gauge. Just a thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbaker4 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 May be a good idea to bring the ground wire out of the controller along with the Data signal. Do this in addition to the ground already fed from the power supply. Long wires with high currents can give a different potential between the two ground sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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