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If you can find an earlier answer from ITSmeBOBO he has a tool on the bottom of his signature called the maestro macro you can download and play gives you an idea how to set up your CCR or CCB I assume

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LightORamaJohn wrote:

Floods are 5 channels per head for a total of 10 chans on controller.

Flood1 -- R=chan1, G=2, B=3, OnTime=4, OffTime=5

F2 -- R6, G7, B8, On9, Off10

The following may change:

On time is 8.33ms to 83.3ms

Off time is 8.33ms to about 4s

I may allow F2 to be slaved to F1 if F2's off time is 100% but on time is 0%.


This is a little confusing to me. But I think I can relate it to the CCR controller a little.
The 8.33ms to 83.3ms numbers are the same on the CCR but are set using macro mode channels 153 & 154 from 0 to 100. The big difference is on the CCR there is a macro mode setting for strobe effect which LOR John did not list in his run down as a channel.

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LightORamaJohn wrote:

Keith Adams wrote:
Yes I was asking when and if the CCF's were going to be on sale and if he had a ballpark numer if they were going to be on sale. And if the 2 head package only meant both floods would only turn on at the same time or if each head could be controlled independantly. This was a question for Dan. I didn't wan't to bother him with a PM as I am sure he is busy right now.


Floods are 5 channels per head for a total of 10 chans on controller.

Flood1 -- R=chan1, G=2, B=3, OnTime=4, OffTime=5

F2 -- R6, G7, B8, On9, Off10

The following may change:

On time is 8.33ms to 83.3ms

Off time is 8.33ms to about 4s

I may allow F2 to be slaved to F1 if F2's off time is 100% but on time is 0%.

So basically they are independantly controlled. Not sure I understand the need for the On and Off channels as I would think the sequence would control that. I guess no eta as to what month these may be available or go on sale or a ballpark price. Nice to know I could control them separately though.

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Sorry for the lack of clarity on the On/Off times. These are to create a strobing effect. They should be left at 0% for normal operation.

They are built into the controller because it would be difficult/impossible to create very short duration bursts consistently using the LOR or DMX protocols.

Effects like lightening can make use of varying brightness and very short to longer pulses to achieve realism.

I'm sure we'll be adjusting the firmware to get it where people want it to be.

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Do we have any more info on the Cosmic Color Bulb sizes and string lengths?

- Will there be another smaller size than the C9 bulbs?
- Will the smaller bulbs be 4" spacing and 16ft lengths?
- How much lower of a price should we expect on the smaller bulbs, compared to the C9's? (Assuming that a 100 count (2 string) C9 will be around $200 regular price.)

I'm sure I'm not the only one that has a lot of decision making to do this week before vendors pre-sale prices are over.

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I tried to follow all 14 pages of this thread but one question that comes to mind is if I use the injector can the signal be split back to the CAT5 at the controller locations (thus eliminating the need for the CAT5 from the house to the display)?

The CCBs are definitely an interesting product and I was almost done buying everything for next year........ Just when I thought I didn't need anything else......

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I also need prices as last night I ordered $6000 of LEDs from Magic in the Sky.(I am looking to buy 23 new controllers+ 5 strings of 100 ccb+ up to 6 LOR ccf)

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John2571 wrote:

I also need prices as last night I ordered $6000 of LEDs from Magic in the Sky. (I am looking to buy 23 new controllers + 5 strings of 100 ccb + up to 6 LOR ccf)


Can you adopt me?

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John2571 wrote:

I also need prices as last night I ordered $6000 of LEDs from Magic in the Sky.

So...was that order on the first or second container for MIS??

(did that for you George!! LOL)

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jimswinder wrote:

John2571 wrote:
I also need prices as last night I ordered $6000 of LEDs from Magic in the Sky.

So...was that order on the first or second container for MIS??

(did that for you George!! LOL)


You Bad:P

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Now it will be a 12 year old with a $16,000 display !!!

I should quit now..but just getting started, My footer will say 51 with 1000 lights, 16 channels and no wife !

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John2571 wrote:

I also need prices as last night I ordered $6000 of LEDs from Magic in the Sky.(I am looking to buy 23 new controllers+ 5 strings of 100 ccb+ up to 6 LOR ccf)

John, are you really 12..or am I missing a joke here?

The numbers you are tossing around suggest more money than you know what to do with (not a bad thing..usually..), but as you can probably see on the forum, there are wide ranging budgets for the hobby, but most not to this extreme..

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Jeff Millard wrote:

Let's see if I've been paying attention. What I've gathered is that the production version of the ccb controller will have two ways to get the network signal to it. 1) you can plug the network directly into it as you do with the rest of your system. 2) you can purchase a separate injector that connects to the network, then you plug an extension cord into that injector, and plug the ccb controllers into that cord... downstream of the injector. Due to the low power of the LEDs, you can plug many of them into that cord. The network communicates with the ccb controllers using a signal that is sent over the power cord ( aka power line comm )

I personally don't see an advantage to the PLC if it only involves one element of my display, so my ccb controllers will be connected using cat5.

Jeff


I kind of agree with you Jeff. But have a few more points. If you have one CCB, why bother with plc. If you have two CCBs which are far apart, you would need to put them on the same power cord while a cat5 may be closer.

But if you have a lot of CCBs which are close together say on a mega tree or matrix. PLC would be a good option. These may be on their own network adapter already. In that case the injector would only inject the commands for that CCB network instead of all for the common network. Since they are close and can all use power from the same house power circuit, you can skip the short cat5s.

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John2571 wrote:

Yes, I am 12(and a bit to smart for my age!)

Here is a link that might clear up some confusion.
http://lightorama.mywowbb.com/forum81/25276.html


And more money to spend than most of us!

Can you fix your sig and put two bars on top of each other so we don't have to scroll to read the messages.

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PaulXmas wrote:

Can you fix your sig and put two bars on top of each other so we don't have to scroll to read the messages.

must be your monitor/display resolution...I don't need to scroll...

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jimswinder wrote:

PaulXmas wrote:
Can you fix your sig and put two bars on top of each other so we don't have to scroll to read the messages.

must be your monitor/display resolution...I don't need to scroll...



I don't have to scroll either check your monitor

And thats just great great a 12 year old smarter than me, well thats not hard LOL :)

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It's John2571's sig that is side by side. I have to scroll because of that, too.
Possibly if I had higher resolution on my monitor, that might not happen.

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I just tried to fix it and I think it worked(I post from an iPad)

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John2571 wrote:

I just tried to fix it and I think it worked(I post from an iPad)

yes...they are now on top of one another...


sheesh....$10,000 in lights PLUS an iPad...

Can I be your parent?!?!?!

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jimswinder wrote:

John2571 wrote:
I just tried to fix it and I think it worked(I post from an iPad)

yes...they are now on top of one another...


sheesh....$10,000 in lights PLUS an iPad...

Can I be your parent?!?!?!

Can I be your older brother:D

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jimswinder wrote:

PaulXmas wrote:
Can you fix your sig and put two bars on top of each other so we don't have to scroll to read the messages.

must be your monitor/display resolution...I don't need to scroll...



Dual 1280X1024

No matter it is fixed now

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jimswinder wrote:

John2571 wrote:
I just tried to fix it and I think it worked(I post from an iPad)

yes...they are now on top of one another...


sheesh....$10,000 in lights PLUS an iPad...

Can I be your parent?!?!?!

Better to be his brother older brother ya thats the ticket!

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