MSB Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 We just put up our tree yesterday. I went into the HU setup and changed the pixie configuration to 100 lights per channel keeping the logical resolution to 50. We connected 2 lengths of CCB's end to end starting with the male plug bottom left of the tree of the first 50 pixels going up and the second string of 50 pixels at starting at the top of the tree going down for channel 1. So there are a total of 32 strings on 16 channels. This was repeated 15 more times 180 degrees around the tree. I have something wrong because while testing all the "up strings" were working but none of the "down strings" lit up. In the preview I'm using the following: Tree 180 100 RGB nodes per string 1 Fold the Unit ID's in the preview look like this - 01, 03, 05, 07, 09, 0B, 0D, 0F, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 1B, 1D, 1F What could I be missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 When you assign a Pixie16 a unit ID you will only assign the first ID, in your case 01. The software automatically assigns the other 15 IDs in order. The first 100 pixels on port 1 will use ID 01, the next 100 pixels on port 2 will use ID 02 and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 29 minutes ago, MSB said: We just put up our tree yesterday. I went into the HU setup and changed the pixie configuration to 100 lights per channel keeping the logical resolution to 50. We connected 2 lengths of CCB's end to end starting with the male plug bottom left of the tree of the first 50 pixels going up and the second string of 50 pixels at starting at the top of the tree going down for channel 1. So there are a total of 32 strings on 16 channels. This was repeated 15 more times 180 degrees around the tree. I have something wrong because while testing all the "up strings" were working but none of the "down strings" lit up. In the preview I'm using the following: Tree 180 100 RGB nodes per string 1 Fold the Unit ID's in the preview look like this - 01, 03, 05, 07, 09, 0B, 0D, 0F, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 1B, 1D, 1F What could I be missing? Well that didnt go well with my comment What my friend above is correct. Your unit ID's should be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0A,0B,0C,0D,0E,0F,10 JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 The software assigned those Unit ID's. I will manually assign them as you suggested and give it a try tomorrow and report back. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 10 hours ago, dibblejr said: Well that didnt go well with my comment What my friend above is correct. Your unit ID's should be 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0A,0B,0C,0D,0E,0F,10 JR I chose enter a channel on every row. Unit ID'S as suggested. Start Circuit 1, End Circuit 150, carryover 150. When I updated the prop I got a bunch of channel conflict warnings. Still missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 4 hours ago, MSB said: I chose enter a channel on every row. Unit ID'S as suggested. Start Circuit 1, End Circuit 150, carryover 150. When I updated the prop I got a bunch of channel conflict warnings. Still missing something. Yes, on my cell phone I totally missed you had folds. My bad. Thats why you got the channel conflicts. I am assuming the conflicts were the every other unit ID you were missing in the original post. Its way to late now. If I have internet in the am I will see if I can design your tree or if I get the same results. Does it work in the preview? If it does I probably wont have an answer because I do not have the physical lights. If it doesnt work in the preview I can see. When you say errors I am thinking that the preview hasnt worked either. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 4 hours ago, dibblejr said: Does it work in the preview? If it does I probably wont have an answer because I do not have the physical lights. If it doesnt work in the preview I can see. When you say errors I am thinking that the preview hasnt worked either. JR It worked in the preview with the settings I started the post with when I ran a simple animation sequence plugged into the tree with motion control tests sequences only the up lights worked, not the down lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Just now, dibblejr said: Yes, on my cell phone I totally missed you had folds. My bad. Thats why you got the channel conflicts. I am assuming the conflicts were the every other unit ID you were missing in the original post. Its way to late now. If I have internet in the am I will see if I can design your tree or if I get the same results. Does it work in the preview? If it does I probably wont have an answer because I do not have the physical lights. If it doesnt work in the preview I can see. When you say errors I am thinking that the preview hasnt worked either. JR 1 hour ago, MSB said: It worked in the preview with the settings I started the post with when I ran a simple animation sequence plugged into the tree with motion control tests sequences only the up lights worked, not the down lights. If it works in the preview it should work in the prop. Since it doesn't that would mean something in either your physical settings. Have you went in to the HU pixie configuration tab and tried to check the reverse order button on the down strings? All of my pixie controllers are running the same firmware as when I built them therefore I do not have the configuration screen that allows me to set them in reverse order. You may have to set this up in a custom prop and place the individual nodes where you need them. One of the work arounds I discovered during beta testing the pixie16 was I could do things by setting it up as a pixcon16 in SE using LOR protocol only. DO not attempt to run it as DMX by connecting it to a ethernet port, it will instantly fry it. The pixcon16 has the ability to snake or sigzag the strings. With that being said I do not see a way in S5 that actually lets you select a pixie16 vs a pixcon16. All I have seen is i the prop def screen where it asks controller type LOR/ DMX/ Undecided so not sure if that even matters in S5. You could also compare the settings of your tree by creating a new preview and download the LOR 16X25 which is what you are attempting to do to compare the settings in the prop def. Its a pixie 8 that creates 16 strings this has been out before S5 so I know it can be done. Brian created the vis file for the LOR tree. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 16 hours ago, MSB said: It worked in the preview with the settings I started the post with when I ran a simple animation sequence plugged into the tree with motion control tests sequences only the up lights worked, not the down lights. Through a problem I had today I may have a solution or at least something for you to try. Leave your S5 settings the way you have it with the fold. On the ports that do not light , go in to the HU and in the ccr/pixie config tab select "reverse" in them ports. I spent a lot of time with a very similar but different problem and thought about your thread all day. Hopefully this works for you. if you don't mind updating the results. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 I tried reversing the alternate ports and that did not work. Then I opened up the preview again and found the problem. It's obvious as heck once you know what to look for. Here's the setup. SHAPE Actual # of Strings -16 Exact # of RGB Nodes per string - 100 # of Folds in each String - 1 Truncate Cone % - 10 CHANNELS LOR Max Circuit 150 is WRONG should be 300 Enter channel on first row, auto-number the rest I set Channel 1 Network Reg, Unit ID 01, Start Circuit 1, End Circuit 300, Carry Over 0 (This will be changing for the final show and just used for testing with my laptop) The remaining Unit ID's auto-numbered 02, 03, 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 0A, 0B, 0C, 0D, 0E, 0F, 10 50 Pixels = 150 circuits 50R, 50G, 50B, 100 Pixels = 300 circuits. I ran a test animation using multiple motion control effects changing every 4 seconds and the tree looks fantastic! I made a quick phone video if you want to check it out. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouney91 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 bonjour je rencontre le meme probleme j ai un pixie 16 je n'arrive pas a faire fonctionnre 2 cordons de 50 leds ws2811 ensemble quand je connecte un cordon pas de probleme quand je connecte les 2 cordons le premier s allume bien sur les 50 leds mais le deuxieme ne s'allume pas du tout est il possible de brancher un cordon de 100 leds ws2811 j'utilise le s4 4.40 licence pro si vous pouviez me donner plus d'explication je ne trouve pas l'endroit dans le hardware pour passer a 300 j ai construit un arbre de 16 cordons de 100 leds ws2811 maisil 'y a que les premieres 50 leds s'allume sur les 16 cordons avez vous une solution a me proposer merci a ceux qui vont me répondre Hello I have the same problem i have a pixie 16 I can't get 2 cords of 50 leds ws2811 to work together when I connect a cord no problem when I connect the 2 cords the first one lights up on the 50 leds but the second one does not light up at all is it possible to connect a cord of 100 leds ws2811 I use the s4 4.40 pro license if you could give me more explanation I can not find the place in the hardware to go to 300 I built a tree of 16 cords of 100 leds ws2811 but the first 50 leds light up on the 16 cords do you have a solution for me thank you to those who will answer me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSB Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 It's not in hardware. It's in your preview in version 5 for the S5 prop. Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 18 hours ago, pouney91 said: bonjour je rencontre le meme probleme j ai un pixie 16 je n'arrive pas a faire fonctionnre 2 cordons de 50 leds ws2811 ensemble quand je connecte un cordon pas de probleme quand je connecte les 2 cordons le premier s allume bien sur les 50 leds mais le deuxieme ne s'allume pas du tout est il possible de brancher un cordon de 100 leds ws2811 j'utilise le s4 4.40 licence pro si vous pouviez me donner plus d'explication je ne trouve pas l'endroit dans le hardware pour passer a 300 j ai construit un arbre de 16 cordons de 100 leds ws2811 maisil 'y a que les premieres 50 leds s'allume sur les 16 cordons avez vous une solution a me proposer merci a ceux qui vont me répondre Hello I have the same problem i have a pixie 16 I can't get 2 cords of 50 leds ws2811 to work together when I connect a cord no problem when I connect the 2 cords the first one lights up on the 50 leds but the second one does not light up at all is it possible to connect a cord of 100 leds ws2811 I use the s4 4.40 pro license if you could give me more explanation I can not find the place in the hardware to go to 300 I built a tree of 16 cords of 100 leds ws2811 but the first 50 leds light up on the 16 cords do you have a solution for me thank you to those who will answer me 1- what is your pixie firmware version ? Look in HU 2- whole in HU set the controller to 100 pixels per port - Configuration/ CCR / pixie 3- put logical resolution on same page back to 50- common problem when people panic and set that to 100- ensure it is on 50 NP- ensure 500k enhanced for the network which it is assigned SE- build it correctly Right click a channel Insert Device - above/ below Give it a name Uncheck use the channel button box Select pixie 2/4/8/16 Select pixie16 rgb/RGB/rgb select the network enter If you do all of that you will have lights - if everything works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouney91 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 bonjour dibblejr hu 01.pixie16ver 1.05 controleur a 100 pixel résolutiont sur 50 réseau a 500.0kfasted se nouvelle séquence annimation pixie 16 insérer renomé arbres 16 bouton canal décoché rvb rvb rvb réseau regulier entré j ai suivi a la lettre toutes vos explications mais je n ai toujours que le premier cordon de 50 leds qui s'allume quand je suis dans le hu et que je fais un test mes 100 leds s'allume une par une sans probleme avez vous une autre solution a me proposer hello dibblejr hu 01.pixie16ver 1.05 100 pixel controller resolution of 50 network has 500.0kfasted new animation sequence pixie 16 insert famous trees 16 channel button not checked rgb rgb rgb regular network Between I followed all your explanations to the letter but I still only have the first 50 led cord that lights up when I am in the hu and I do a test my 100 leds light up one by one without any problem do you have another solution to offer me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouney91 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 je cherche a allumé un cordon de 100 leds sur un canal exemple pixie 01 port 1pixel 100 leds pixie 01 port 2 pixel 100 leds I'm looking for a 100 led cord on a channel example pixie 01 port 1pixel 100 leds pixie 01 port 2 pixel 100 leds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 hours ago, pouney91 said: je cherche a allumé un cordon de 100 leds sur un canal exemple pixie 01 port 1pixel 100 leds pixie 01 port 2 pixel 100 leds I'm looking for a 100 led cord on a channel example pixie 01 port 1pixel 100 leds pixie 01 port 2 pixel 100 leds If you put the jumper on that LOR sent , please remove the jumper. The directions say to install it but some people have had problems and after I ask them to remove it the 100-170 pixels work. Let me know if that works JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouney91 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 bonjour dibblejr merci pour votre réponse j ai donc enlever le cavalier pas de changement mais maintenant mes leds rouges s'allume en roseet scintille j ai donc remis le cavalier et mes leds s'allume toujours en rose et scintille les leds vertes et les bleus fonctionne avec la bonne couleur mais elle scintille aussi maintenant que faire pour cette année je pense que je vais resté sur un abre de pixel a 50 leds j ai beaucoup de mal avec le s5 et plus le temps de chercher avez vous une solution pour retrouver les couleurs normal et qui ne scintille plus merci du temps que vous consacré a aider les personne du forum Hello dibblejr thank you for your reply So I took off the jumper no change but now my red leds light up pink and sparkle I therefore put the jumper back on and my leds always light up in pink and sparkle the green and blue leds work with the correct color but she also sparkles now what to do for this year i think i will stay on a 50 led pixel abre I have a lot of trouble with the s5 and no more time to search do you have a solution to find the colors normal and which no longer sparkles thank you for the time you spent helping the forum people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouney91 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 bonjour greg je n'utilise pas le s5 je suis avec le s4 440 merci hello greg I don't use the s5 I am with the s4 440 thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) You must have the sparkle and pink selected in the test box in the test selection. Turn those off. When you set it up in the add new device and selected pixie 16 did you set the number of pixels to 100? Open the sequence, how many pixels do you count per port? You have to set the 100 in the HU and the while adding the device. JR Edited November 2, 2020 by dibblejr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pouney91 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 bonjour tout est rentré dans l'orde j ai fait un reset du pixie 16 et mes leds refonctionne normalement avec les bonnes couleurs et plus de scintillement dans le pixie j ai bien configurer sur 100 pixels et 50 en résolution dans la séquence de l'arbre les 12 cordons son bien sur 100 pixels je commence a installer mon spectacle,donc tant pis pour cette année je vais resté avec mon arbre de 12 cordons de 50 leds si je peux me permetre je vous reconctacterais aprés les fetes de noel et du jour de l'an merci encore pour votre aide passer de bonnes fetes de fin d année,malgré ce covid faite attention a vous et a toutes votre famille cordialement Hello everything is in order I reset the pixie 16 and my leds work normally with the right colors and more sparkle in the pixie I have configured well on 100 pixels and 50 in resolution in the sequence of the tree the 12 cords are well on 100 pixels I'm starting to set up my show, so too bad for this year I will stay with my tree of 12 cords of 50 leds if I may allow myself I will get back to you after the Christmas and New Years holidays Thank you again for your help have a good end of year holiday, despite this covid take care of yourself and all your family cordially Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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