stachows Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I have searched these and other boards, and an unfortunately the links that have found the info i need are no longer valid. I have a spare LOR RS485, and I am looking to control a moving head light. What I need is the pinouts/info to create a Cat5 to DMX cable that will plug into the RS485 on one end(cat5) and the light on the other side (3 Pin DMX). I have the ends, and the cable, just need to know what wire goes to what pin etc... Any help would be appreciated!!! Thanks, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 RJ 45 pin 6 to dmx pin1 RJ 45 pin 5 to dmx pin 2 RJ 45 pin 4 to dmx pin3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stachows Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) OK, so just to confirm??? Using a standard Cat5 Cable....Using the standard of the 568B wiring, (most Common) Green wire (pin 6) to DMX pin1 Blue & White (pin 5) to DMX pin2 Blue wire (pin 4) to DMX pin3 Again... THANK YOU!!! Edited November 23, 2018 by stachows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Correct. That's how I run my moving heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stachows Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 Thank you so very Much!!!! I will give it a shot in the morning!!! Happy Holidays to you and your family!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 You're quite welcome. Happy Thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Couldn't find this earlier, just looked again and here it is. http://www1.lightorama.com/Documents/DMX-DOC.pdf Knew it was there somewhere. Edited November 23, 2018 by PhilMassey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stachows Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 OK, so that is the doc that I saw the links to that would not open up.... Perfect...!!! Again Thank you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stachows Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 Ok, so I have the cable made ( could not wait).....how do I tell LOR that I want to use DMX on that RS485 (Com4) I looked in the Network Configuration utility and not sure how to assign a DMX universe to a RS485 com port??? I have multiple other E 1.31 universes working just fine on their own networks.... but this one escapes me... Sorry... Thanks, Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Hi Scott Your profile says S3, If true I can't say how well this will work. You need to install the USB drivers (if you haven't previously done so) and plug in the 485. Open HU and assign it a com port. (Re reading, I think you have that done already.) Open Network config, DMX tab, Click on an empty universe. Name it, Select the newly added adaptor, set DMX protocol. Control Panel needs to be up At this point you should be able to open the HU, Open Pixel Console, Click DMX E131 Controller type, Select the Universe you just assigned, and test the Head using the sliders. In SE, Create a channel for each Head channel using the universe Number and channel number. Each head function has its own channei asignment, Pan = Chan 1, Pan Fine = Chan 2 etc, so you should end up with a Sequence Editor row for each Head channel. You will then need to set the DMX start channel in the Head's menu. If your first SE channel id is Universe X Chan 1, the Start Channel in the device should be d001 but it can be anything, just needs to match. If you get stuck, PM me and we can talk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stachows Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Sorry, I will have to update my profile... I am running the latest version of 4.x In the network configuration utility, I have dozens of other E.131 universes working fine, so that is not what is confusing me. And when I use my IDMX 1000 the light itself works great in the hardware utility. Pan/tilt/colors/strobe. Everything is working. Where I am confused is when NOT using the IDMX 1000. It is when conneting the light directly into the RS485 with the cable I made. In the network utility when trying to assign a new DMX universe for the RS485 adapter which is on COM4, it is not an option. It shows up under the standard LOR tab as a regular LOR network, but not the DMX tab. I hope this makes sense. Edited November 23, 2018 by stachows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Verify you have the com port present in Device Manager. Do not assign the com port in the LOR tab, If it is there set it to None, Then try to assign it in the DMX tab. It does get a bit confusing, especially if you have multiple RS 485's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stachows Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 The COM port is present, but it is in the LOR tab. That must be my problem. I'll check that when I get home. Thanks again!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stachows Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 Phil thank you for staying with me.... I figured it out and got it working. My confusion was that in the DMX tab, when selecting the Universe and choosing an adapter, there was only 1 choice (A1001i03). I was thinking that this was a dummy adapter or some other thing.... partly because I also assumed that the LOR RS485 adapter would be named something different. I was wrong. That is in fact exactly what it is named. Go Figure.....LOL Long story short, when assigning that adapter a universe, I am able to control my moving head light just like on any of my other DMX universes, and it is wired directly from the light (XLR) to my spare RS485 Adapter (RJ45). I appreciate your patience and help! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre magri Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 hi stachows i need the pin out to make an adapter from usb 485 to rj 45 to conext with a pixcon 16 dou have any idea pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 53 minutes ago, andre magri said: hi stachows i need the pin out to make an adapter from usb 485 to rj 45 to conext with a pixcon 16 dou have any idea pls A pixcon on a LOR network uses a straight thru cable: Orange/white Orange Green/white Blue Blue/white Green Brown/white Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stachows Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 I have never used pixcon, but what Mr P. Is describing is a standard pin out found on just about any cat5 cable. Look up 568b rj45, and you find 100s of diagrams... HTH... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre magri Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 yes but i need the other end to convert it to usb it only use 2 wire d + and D- i thing it the 3 and 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre magri Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 i am trying one o f this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwblazek Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) Probably a dumb question, new to DMX mingling with RS485 / LOR hardware, but can I make a RS485 to DMX adapter and daisy chain off the last LOR device I have to control a DMX device? Edited May 10, 2019 by jwblazek typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I think you would have to run all the lor controllers in dmx mode for that, which has some disadvantages. Cleaner to run a second dongle with a dmx crossover cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwblazek Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Yeah, thought so, thanks Phil. Out of USB ports, 4 dongles, on this PC, have 4 going out and 1 Enet now to a router Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 1 hour ago, jwblazek said: Yeah, thought so, thanks Phil. Out of USB ports, 4 dongles, on this PC, have 4 going out and 1 Enet now to a router No big deal. USB hubs are fast, easy, and cheap. Strong suggestion to use a powered hub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDucks Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Second the Powered USB hub But Even better(if you have a card slot open): A Internal PCI(e) card with a disk drive type power connector allows full spee on the main bus. Do check 😦 that you HAVE a unused disk power connector (and it will reach the back of the card. Do check what Style (older w/ 4 round pins or newer SATA style) Adapter pigtails are cheap And verify what type of slot: PCI, or which PCI-e type (you only need the smaller one for performance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Agreed on adding a USB card for those running a desktop. Unfortunately so many people don't listen to my advise to use a desktop. This is one of the reasons for a desktop over a laptop as a show computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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