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2 hours ago, caniac said:

no germs, surgery!!

Oh, prayers for a full and quick eecovery

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Just now, dibblejr said:

Oh, prayers for a full and quick eecovery

I feel my sarcasm returning to full force.

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The matrix's can be as large as you want or as small as you want (that would still count as a matrix). If fyou got the know how and the ability,  I say go for it. I am doing a 24x50, 4 - 8x21s and a 31x21 this year. Can't wait to get them up on the house.

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20 hours ago, BMurray said:

The matrix's can be as large as you want or as small as you want (that would still count as a matrix). If fyou got the know how and the ability,  I say go for it. I am doing a 24x50, 4 - 8x21s and a 31x21 this year. Can't wait to get them up on the house.

thought about a 24x50 but wanted it to fit my picture window, only way to accomplish that plus get close to HD quality was a P10.  Was on the fence until I saw them demo'd at the OKC mini.

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I was doing a 2-inch spaced  Matrix in my window and most anything but text didn't show very well. So I ended up making a couple of P10 Matrix panels to use in the show and the pixel Matrix net that I made up is now a complete waste that's never going to see the show. If you wanted to use Lor to control P10 panels you would have to set your fpp in bridge mode and drive it with  E1.31. My original Matrix was about 4 foot by 5 foot. 

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4 minutes ago, Ebuechner said:

I was doing a 2-inch spaced  Matrix in my window and most anything but text didn't show very well. So I ended up making a couple of P10 Matrix panels to use in the show and the pixel Matrix net that I made up is now a complete waste that's never going to see the show. If you wanted to use Lor to control P10 panels you would have to set your fpp in bridge mode and drive it with  E1.31. My original Matrix was about 4 foot by 5 foot. 

how do you config in LOR and can you push video to it?

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I wish I could tell you how to do it in LOR but I honestly don't know. I'm sure you would need to set it up in pixel editor the same way you would and xlights. It should have the same capabilities because it was copied from xlights and they brought Matt Brown over. I did a quick test pushing to P10 panels with E1.31 and you can see even when I was pushing complex data to run video it didn't bog down at all. 

I thought I would add, in the video you can see my rolled-up pixel Matt sitting on the floor unused ( what a waste).

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so I would have to setup in Pixel Editor and config there, import my LMS files to it?  S4 or S5?

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2 minutes ago, caniac said:

so I would have to setup in Pixel Editor and config there, import my LMS files to it?

I wish I could tell you that for sure. I would hope that S5 would have more capabilities and can do this but Lor has been struggling to keep up with technology, and with a conversation I had with a higher up in LOR I got the impression that they were focused on people mainly doing AC lights. But that conversation was a while ago. You can also reach out to me in the X lights and falcon forums I'm using the same name.

There's no way that sequence editor could handle that amount of data without bringing it to a screeching halt. 

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Just now, Ebuechner said:

I wish I could tell you that for sure. I would hope that S5 would have more capabilities and can do this but Lor has been struggling to keep up with technology, and with a conversation I had with a higher up in LOR I got the impression that they were focused on people mainly doing AC lights. But that conversation was a while ago. You can also reach out to me in the X lights and falcon forums I'm using the same name.

There's no way that sequence editor could handle that amount of data without bringing it to a screeching halt. 

I am over on xLights under the same name, just look for noobie getting ragged on!! lol

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2 minutes ago, caniac said:

I am over on xLights under the same name, just look for noobie getting ragged on!! lol

Yes I'm aware that you're there that's why I mentioned it. I read your recent posts is was going to respond but it looked like somebody else started to help you. 

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41 minutes ago, Ebuechner said:

Yes I'm aware that you're there that's why I mentioned it. I read your recent posts is was going to respond but it looked like somebody else started to help you. 

some days I think I have it figured out and other days I am on the short yellow struggle bus.

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yeah, the more I look at your P10 displays, the more I think we will eventually just be using "old" Flat Screen TVs (probably cheaper if you think about the cost / time it takes to hand build P10 displays).

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If you really want that UHD look just go with projection. Would probably be cheaper too and definitely easier.  

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3 hours ago, christmascrossing said:

yeah, the more I look at your P10 displays, the more I think we will eventually just be using "old" Flat Screen TVs (probably cheaper if you think about the cost / time it takes to hand build P10 displays).

depending on size P10's may actually be cheaper unless you start yard sailing for 40" to 50" flat panels, only issue there is those aren't always great outdoors.

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Ebuechner & caniac what are you using to drive the p10's ? 

I've had my p10 matrix ( 8 x 4 ) built for 2 years. I'm not happy with the performance so I've never put it out. Slow moving objects & static pictures display fine but anything with speed just causes major lag or it just skips it. I have a beaglebone black driving them & have used xlights & LOR, both with the same results.

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8 hours ago, Darryl Lambert said:

Ebuechner & caniac what are you using to drive the p10's ? 

I've had my p10 matrix ( 8 x 4 ) built for 2 years. I'm not happy with the performance so I've never put it out. Slow moving objects & static pictures display fine but anything with speed just causes major lag or it just skips it. I have a beaglebone black driving them & have used xlights & LOR, both with the same results.

I am using a Raspberry Pi with a PiHat Matrix board and running FalconPlayer.  Haven't had the issues you have, videos play fine.

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6 hours ago, caniac said:

I am using a Raspberry Pi with a PiHat Matrix board and running FalconPlayer.  Haven't had the issues you have, videos play fine.

Is the sequence file loaded on the pi? I was trying to play the sequence right from xlights on my computer  . I'm beginning to think that it's too much data to push out from the computer. It means that the beaglebone has to receive all that data & then send it to the appropriate p10 panel.

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10 minutes ago, Darryl Lambert said:

Is the sequence file loaded on the pi? I was trying to play the sequence right from xlights on my computer  . I'm beginning to think that it's too much data to push out from the computer. It means that the beaglebone has to receive all that data & then send it to the appropriate p10 panel.

you load the sequences (xLights) and audio on the Pi and use FalconPlayer to play OR set FalconPlayer in bridge mode and play from within xLights.  Beaglebone should be able to handle it from a testing sequence standpoint but for your show the sequences need to be on the Pi.

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14 minutes ago, caniac said:

you load the sequences (xLights) and audio on the Pi and use FalconPlayer to play OR set FalconPlayer in bridge mode and play from within xLights.  Beaglebone should be able to handle it from a testing sequence standpoint but for your show the sequences need to be on the Pi.

OK, now I'm confused.  But I claim to know very little about P10 panels.  If you load the P10 portion of your show onto the Pi, how does that time sync with the rest of your show?  I thought that if you put the FPP in bridge mode, it was treated no different than any other E1.31 controller.

 

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32 minutes ago, k6ccc said:

OK, now I'm confused.  But I claim to know very little about P10 panels.  If you load the P10 portion of your show onto the Pi, how does that time sync with the rest of your show?  I thought that if you put the FPP in bridge mode, it was treated no different than any other E1.31 controller.

 

You don't load the P10 portion, you load the whole thing and let the Pi run it (either in standalone or master/slave config), it controls the rest of your elements.  When using in bridge mode then your sequencing pc can control it, if you are working on a sequence and want to see how it will look on the P10 then put it in bridge mode and press play in the sequencer (have done this with xLights but haven't tried it with LOR).

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49 minutes ago, caniac said:

You don't load the P10 portion, you load the whole thing and let the Pi run it (either in standalone or master/slave config), it controls the rest of your elements.  When using in bridge mode then your sequencing pc can control it, if you are working on a sequence and want to see how it will look on the P10 then put it in bridge mode and press play in the sequencer (have done this with xLights but haven't tried it with LOR).

Can the Pi control LOR networks?  I didn't think it could.

 

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9 minutes ago, k6ccc said:

Can the Pi control LOR networks?  I didn't think it could.

 

yup, LOR networks support DMX.  Both my AlphaPix16 and my Falcon V2 have a DMX out (supports RS485) so I will use a crossover cable from those controllers to my LOR controllers.  will be hooking up and testing in the next couple of weeks.

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Can't use inputs in DMX.  I run a highly interactive show, so use of LOR network is absolutely required.

Based on what you said a couple posts ago, is there a reason that if you can "test" in bridge mode from XLights or LOR, why can't you run the show with the FPP in bridge mode?

 

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you should be able to but you would need your P10 "content" on the Pi for performance reasons.  I am using MP4's and they are huge (50mb) so passing that kind of content from your computer instead of the Pi would cause issues. Haven't tested it yet. 

When you say LOR network are you referring to hardware only or it and software?  

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