chadh Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I wired one of my Ilumivision Light Wave LXs which is a 36LED RGB wall wash. When I first had it wired All 36 Leds came on but could not be controlled by LOR. They next day I plugged it in and only the Blue LEDs were on and still no control from LOR. However, now when I turn it on all i get is a flash of the blue LEDs and no control of the unit. They are powered by a 300w 24v power supply. What would be causing the lights to not work? We wired the dmx in ourselves, but we did not know if we needed to ground the shield or not. Would this cause it to not work? Below I have a picture of the unit and if you need any more info let me know. Here is the user guide just in case. http://www.illumivision.com/files/user_guides/lx-userguide.pdfThanks,Chad Attached files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Have just printed your manualWill read and get back to youmy dmx units flash on power up (just blue) chauvet color splash jr.got very strange light outputs when a 3 foot interconnect cable was wired improperlyto see my dmx layout go to dmxwill this work postAre you using an idmx?get back to you latterFrank a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 Wow Frank that is a nice setup. Very Impressive.I am using and IDMX and have used it for the past two years so I know it works. In the manual is says to ground the shield in the DMX line but I have no idea how to do this. This could be the main problem that I can't figure out how to do it. I also do not know the dmx address of the light fixtures due to them being given to me for free and there was no information with them. However, I have tried every single possible address.Thanks again Frank!Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Thanks for the complimentAt present, do not be to concerned about the shieldA shield wire is an electrical trap for electrical noise from outside the cableFor testing at this point I do not believe it is an issueAttached is a three pin male plug and its related configuration for plugging into the idmx1, 2, and 3 on the attached sheet should hook up to 1, 2, and 3 of the light as shown on page eleven of the light manualFrom the initial address of the fixture(whatever that might be) there will be subsequent address usedThis addressing is dependant on the fixture designYou may have to contact ILLUMIVISION for a breakdown of there dmx addressingWhat channel address are you using for the idmx?Can you give me an idea on your wiring at present?Frank a. Attached files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 If you have more than one unit the address might be a part of the serial number or unit idJust a thoughtFrank a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 Yeah I was thinking that it might be the serial number because it is 64.65.66. But we wired the dmx wire directly into the unit instead of using an xlr connection. Here is a not so great picture below. All I have is my camera phone since i am in my apartment at school. The white and green wires are connected to the dmx in and the orange and blue are connected to the dmx out. Attached files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Is the polarity correctThe 3 foot cable I mentioned earlier that was wiring incorrectly,yours truly wired it and would've bet the kids that it was done properlyMy attachment shows the pin layout from the back with the rubber boot offAny way to borrow a simple fixture from a local dj or dj equipment supplierOh, you mentioned school - how about from the media or drama departmentsThat sure looks like the addressing structure 64.65.66My chauvet splash jr. is a rgb but uses 5 channels 1 reserved 2 red 3 blue 4 green 5strobeThe reason I mention this is this chauvet product the strobe has to be set to 255 for the red blue green to be controlled but on other chauvet equipment the strobe has to be set to 000.Do you have your idmx with you?You only have one unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 I have a dimmer pack at my house that I could try and see if it works. I have seven more of these units so I might need to try another one and see if I can get it to work. I do have the IDMX with me at school and have been trying for a few days now to get it to work. It seems like the lights is getting power from the power supply okay so it seems like it has to me something to do with the DMX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Dimmer pack will tell you the dmx is workinghttp://www.bigclive.com/dmxtest.htmthis link is for building an inexpensive testerparts at radio shackdont have any other suggestionscurious about other serial numbersAs far as the sheild goes. I hook it up at both connectors when I make a cableOn industrial equipment I have worked on the sheild is connected to ground at the source end only, I am making an assumption (usually a mistake for me) that this is taken care of in the idmx. I do not connect it anywhere except on the pin in a connectorContact the manufacturer and explain the problem. They may be able to shed a few rays of light on the subject (pun intentional)keep me in the loopFrank a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 Thanks for the help Frank! Next time I go home I will try the dimmer packs and possibly try another unit and see if it works for me. I will keep you updated.Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 ChadOne more thoughtAttached is diagram of how I see the unit wired and connected to a computer running LOR II sequence editor. Version has to be above ~2.1.6 - I am running the latest 2.4.8as an example: if the idmx address is LOR 10 then the corresponding address will be 13.16LOR 64(light unit) 14.01(LOR) 65 (Light unit) 14.02(LOR) 66 Light unit The three lor channels must be configured in the sequence editor - turn the three channels to 50% on (LOR) or a value of ~127 (DMX) in the sequence editor.Thats the example, if you can tell me what address your idmx is set at I can figure out what LOR channels you need to turn on.You probably know all this already, but it is worth talking aboutFrank a. Attached files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 By the way do not worry about output wires from light unitJust make sure they are isolated from each otherFrank a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 Alright so that last picture confused me. You had orange and blue wires going into the light. In the User guide it says those are the output wires. Since they are output wires would they not being going into the next light instead of coming from the IDMX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Chadyou do not want to deal with somebody that can not readyour correct should be white and greenobviously you know what to doaddressing is my guess if you have the equipment and wiring correct NOT AS SHOWNFrank a. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 This DMX stuff is way to confusing. I think I'm going by my house tomorrow so I will try out the dimmer packs and maybe try a new unit and see if I can get it to work. Thanks for everything!Chad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share Posted October 8, 2009 UPDATE: I tried a new unit and it is now working!!! Thanks so much for your help Frank! It looks like the first unit was just a bad unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 ChadThats greatthese dmx controlled rgb units give you flexibility to nth degreeJust curious. Are you going to dismantle the unit not working?Frank A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 I havent't decided if I want to take the unit apart yet. I probably wont unless I decide I need another. However, since i have 7 more and these lights up a good 30-40ft. They are amazing units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadh Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share Posted November 1, 2009 Just wanted to update this thread and say that I now have all six lights working and they are truly amazing. Thanks Frank for all your help!-Chad Attached files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank A. Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 ChadNow that is truly impressive.Next up video of a small sequence?Frank A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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