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My wife talked me into entering a contest done by one of the local radio stations here in Utah even though it is just a picture and not video of the display. You can cast your vote by going to http://www.971zht.com/pages/zoo_lights08/ voting starts on Tuesday the 16th at 7am MST and the winner will be announced on Friday the 19th so just a couple days to get the votes in. It looks like I'm entry 18 but in case that changes I've attached the picture so you will know.

Thanks for you support



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Hay I voted for 23 or was it 15. No I voted for yours 3 times. Nothing like rigging a vote. :P I used all my e-mail accounts to vote. Hope you enjoy the $1000 dollars. I know you will use it to buy more controllers, I would. So lets hear more people helping Erik out.

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Hay I voted for 23 or was it 15. No I voted for yours 3 times. Nothing like rigging a vote. :P I used all my e-mail accounts to vote. Hope you enjoy the $1000 dollars. I know you will use it to buy more controllers, I would. So lets hear more people helping Erik out.

Thanks for the support, I figure $1000 is another 7-8 controllers. Just what I needed.
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Richard Hamilton

friskybri wrote:

Hay I voted for 23 or was it 15. No I voted for yours 3 times. Nothing like rigging a vote. :D I used all my e-mail accounts to vote.

That probably isn't going to work. It looks like they use IP address filters in addition to email addresses. Which of course is the smart thing to do. It's a little harder to stuff the box until you are faking IP addresses.
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Richard Hamilton wrote:

friskybri wrote:
Hay I voted for 23 or was it 15. No I voted for yours 3 times. Nothing like rigging a vote. :D I used all my e-mail accounts to vote.

That probably isn't going to work. It looks like they use IP address filters in addition to email addresses. Which of course is the smart thing to do. It's a little harder to stuff the box until you are faking IP addresses.

Guys I work with told me it was just a cookie, and they have been able to vote using different email address by deleting cookies after each vote. That seems to work.
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Erik wrote:

Richard Hamilton wrote:
friskybri wrote:
Hay I voted for 23 or was it 15. No I voted for yours 3 times. Nothing like rigging a vote. :D I used all my e-mail accounts to vote.

That probably isn't going to work. It looks like they use IP address filters in addition to email addresses. Which of course is the smart thing to do. It's a little harder to stuff the box until you are faking IP addresses.

Guys I work with told me it was just a cookie, and they have been able to vote using different email address by deleting cookies after each vote. That seems to work.


Eric, Gee, that's a bit dishonest in my view. What happened to honest voting? ;-)
My board uses cookies too... I think most boards do. But the voting software on my site filters out multiple IP addresses during the talley. Looks like they use the same scripts. At any rate, why bother trying to defeat it.
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Richard Hamilton wrote:

Erik wrote:
Richard Hamilton wrote:
friskybri wrote:
Hay I voted for 23 or was it 15. No I voted for yours 3 times. Nothing like rigging a vote. :D I used all my e-mail accounts to vote.

That probably isn't going to work. It looks like they use IP address filters in addition to email addresses. Which of course is the smart thing to do. It's a little harder to stuff the box until you are faking IP addresses.

Guys I work with told me it was just a cookie, and they have been able to vote using different email address by deleting cookies after each vote. That seems to work.


Eric, Gee, that's a bit dishonest in my view. What happened to honest voting? ;-)
My board uses cookies too... I think most boards do. But the voting software on my site filters out multiple IP addresses during the talley. Looks like they use the same scripts. At any rate, why bother trying to defeat it.

Not trying to be dishonest, or defeat the system. We were simply trying to find a way for all members of a family to vote. If what you are saying is true then a household would only get 1 vote, is that fair?

Ok off of my soapbox.:D

For those of you that have voted for me I really do appreciate the support
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Erik wrote:

Not trying to be dishonest, or defeat the system. We were simply trying to find a way for all members of a family to vote. If what you are saying is true then a household would only get 1 vote, is that fair?

Ok off of my soapbox.:)
For those of you that have voted for me I really do appreciate the support


Just giving you a hard time Erik :D
I voted for ya, but only once.
Nope, probably not fair that a household only gets one vote, but that is the way a lot of boards work. There are usually IP address filters to prevent stuffing the ballot.
Hmmm, so this is how Obama won huh? cheers. hope you win.
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Well let me stir the pot. Next time you have an election for County Commission or a Mayor would you please let me know so I can vote?

I believe it is not dishonest but unethical for someone to ask for votes in a "local" contest. Whether it is you or someone else.

Actually, I am quite turned off by all the "vote for me" posts when it comes to a national contest. Maybe just supply the information and then let the chips fall where they may.

I mean honestly, is it really rewarding to win a local contest when you know you asked people from all over to vote?

As far as trying to defeat the cookies are concerned it is pretty simple. That was meant to be one vote per household. Not sure why in this day and age we always feel something is not fair or we need to get an "angle" all for the sake of winning.

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You'll have to let us know one way or the other. I voted for you as well!!!!!

Good luck!
-Evan

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I sir, have to agree with Robin and everyone who start a thread about help me win a vote ( even as a joke in other forums)(yes it's talked about).
it is dishonest to ask other to help one win, without even seeing the other contestent, or your for that matter. Pictures says a thousand word, so what.

you think you have the best display. SHOW IT
you think you have the best sequence. BRING IT.

the true meaning as to why we do this is to bring smiles and joy. Not for the money or fame. And thats what really missing.
I got my first letter this weekend from a little girl who thanked me for putting a light show, singing her favorite songs. (MY WIFE FRAMED IT...)

I don't charge a fee and my show, IT IS ALL FREE.

VOTING TO ME, DOES NOT MATTER.

But a smile and a simple letter makes me proud. THE TIME i SPENT SHOWING MY STUFF...


SO TO YOU, BRING IT. SHOW YOUR TALENT AND STUFF.

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evana wrote:

I sir, have to agree with Robin and everyone who start a thread about help me win a vote ( even as a joke in other forums)(yes it's talked about).
it is dishonest to ask other to help one win, without even seeing the other contestent, or your for that matter. Pictures says a thousand word, so what.

you think you have the best display. SHOW IT
you think you have the best sequence. BRING IT.

the true meaning as to why we do this is to bring smiles and joy. Not for the money or fame. And thats what really missing.
I got my first letter this weekend from a little girl who thanked me for putting a light show, singing her favorite songs. (MY WIFE FRAMED IT...)

I don't charge a fee and my show, IT IS ALL FREE.

VOTING TO ME, DOES NOT MATTER.

But a smile and a simple letter makes me proud. THE TIME i SPENT SHOWING MY STUFF...


SO TO YOU, BRING IT. SHOW YOUR TALENT AND STUFF.

i couldnt agree more...contests are not what its about...its about the smiles on the faces of kids from 9 months to 99 years old...i love listening out the window to some people reactions, the laughter etc...im sorry but i cant vote for a display i cant see in person and asking for votes from 'buddies' on the net is IMO cheating...only those who can see it should vote...sorry

my winning a contest this year? was an old high school friend stopping by the other night and telling me its his third time...THIRD TIME...coming by THIS year and referring to my house as a "landmark"...thats my prize...is whats been said to me by people who SEE the display...LIVE
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johnny christmas wrote:

coming by THIS year and referring to my house as a "landmark"...thats my prize...is whats been said to me by people who SEE the display...LIVE

Thats what I get. Local shops being asked Where's the house with the lights and music at? And they all know where it is.
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I don't do my display for the fame/money I do it simply because I enjoy it, and if it brings joy and happiness to other then all the better.

If at all possible I would appreciate it if one of the moderators would please delete this thread.

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Eric,
There is nothing wrong with getting attention for the display. Heck we all have egos that need stroked once in a while. I am one of the biggest attention whores around. I promote my display locally. Mainly because the more people that visit the more money raised for my local Kiwanis club which goes directly to needy families. So there is nothing wrong with self promotion. Heck even make a press release and send it to the media. I usually enter one contest a year and that is Dan's and mainly because there is no voting. This year I actually entered a local TV contest. I may win and I may not. But last year I did not enter because another LOR user entered and it was his first year using LOR. He won. I am entering the contest this year because there is no voting and I have told very few people about the contest.

The thing is local contests are just that local. We belong to a select group of several thousand and in my opinion asking for votes from our forums just taints the results of a local contest.

I love contests to be honest. I have tried to get our local paper to do one for years. I have even offered not to enter but be a judge yet they will not do it. They fail to see the advertising and community value behind the contest.

So enter away, promote yourself locally till the cows come home. Just when it comes to voting campaign locally for the local contests. Then take pride in the fact that Your local community thinks you are the best, and enjoy the real reason we are all supose to be doing this for. The kids, the smiles and to celebrate the birth of Christ.

Merry Christmas.

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Gosh, after seeing all of you attack Erik in this way I’m really sort of ashamed to be part of this forum.

I live in Erik's local area and I don’t see a thing wrong with his asking people to help him out and consider voting for his display.

There are 24 other entries in the contest, vote for someone else if you don’t think he’s deserving or you want to level the playing field. In fact, if your ethical values don’t allow you to vote DON’T. But posting here, preaching to him with your holier than thou attitudes… I’m appalled. I would even dare say that there’s not a one of you on this board that wouldn’t ask friends and family to vote in a similar contest, no matter if they lived locally or not.

Do you have a right to your opinions?… of course. However, if you feel the overwhelming need to share your opinion and you just find it completly impossible to keep it to yourself, PM Erik. Let him know privately. But attacking him in public like this, (and please, don’t bother to tell me that you weren’t attacking and that you were just "sharing in 'love'") so close to the holiday that we all came together to celebrate in the first place??? I just don’t get it.

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I got a pm about it too.

Erik, nice display. I wish mine was as compact as yours but I have too much to cover right now.

I don't enter contest where others can vote for me. Only enter ones that are ran by the companies (LOR).

Robin & Evan have pretty much covered it.

Try this, go to the homepage of www.synchronizedchristmaslights.com and look on the right side under latest information.

There, I have some contest listed that people can enter in.

Great display and Merry Christmas!

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Rick, you know what I like about this thread? We share valuable information. We express our opinions good and bad. We do not attack we just state the facts as we see them. We do not get our "wittle" feelings hurt because some disagrees with us. If people want that then there is a Politically Correct forum to go to which over the past several years people have been more concerned about taking everyone's ideas and giving a little credit on the forum but claiming as their own in their community.

So did I attack Eric? Nope. I just state it was not ethical in my opinion to solicit votes from around the country for a local contest. My offer still stands to anyone who thinks this is fair please let me come vote for your mayor, councilman or county commissioners. There is really no difference.

Jeff brought up a very valid point about word getting out about stacking the vote. That would really make Eric look bad in his community and it would give us all a bad name. Then I would be ashamed.

Just one more thing about voting and trying to bypass the cookies. If we do that for something as meaningless as a Christmas contest, what will we do for a national or state election if internet voting becomes a reality. Would you think that is fair?

Enjoy your lights, enjoy the people, enjoy the season. The contests will take care of themselves. Win or lose we are all winners for doing this.

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