Reefrus Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I have upgraded my software to 5.6.4 and I am stumped on setting up configuration for the elor, I think I have tried idmx1000, dmx, rgb device. pixie and I can not get the lights to light. I made sure network preferences were set to e1.31. What am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 ELOR is purely for LOR devices. Sandevices use E1.31 over ethernet. LOR devices connect to the USB port via an RS 485 LOR adaptor. E1.31 devices connect to the Ethernet port of your PC and require a little bit of network knowledge. You are talking about two completely different things which CANNOT be connected together even though they use the same cat 5 cables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefrus Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, PhilMassey said: ELOR is purely for LOR devices. Sandevices use E1.31 over ethernet. LOR devices connect to the USB port via an RS 485 LOR adaptor. E1.31 devices connect to the Ethernet port of your PC and require a little bit of network knowledge. You are talking about two completely different things which CANNOT be connected together even though they use the same cat 5 cables. Thanks for the reply Phil let me try to clarify. Before I upgraded to 5.6.4 the elor was set as LOR channels 15-16-17-18 controlling a e682 that controlled all my gece lights. I run my show off a mp3 director. My problem is now that I have upgraded to 5.6.4 when i add a device in preview I have tried every thing from lor to Idmx1000 and have not found the correct set up for the elor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 You skipped a few items in your first message. Let me make sure I have this right. Director > idmx - E682 > GECE lights. As I recall, the idmx1000 does not support ELOR (but I could be wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, k6ccc said: You skipped a few items in your first message. Let me make sure I have this right. Director > idmx - E682 > GECE lights. As I recall, the idmx1000 does not support ELOR (but I could be wrong) The IDMX1000 does support ELOR It does not support 1000K speed, DMX512 or e1.31 over ethernet JR Edited October 25, 2021 by dibblejr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 So does the idmx output E1.31, I'm confused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Not according to the quick read of the manual. It's strictly DMX over RS-485. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Sources appear confusing Network Speeds - Light-O-Rama (lightorama.com) iDMX1000 User Manual (lightorama.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dibblejr said: Sources appear confusing Network Speeds - Light-O-Rama (lightorama.com) iDMX1000 User Manual (lightorama.com) Unfortunately the iDMX manual is 14 years old and mentions that the latest LOR software version is S2 - about a decade before ELOR was introduced. From the iDMX manual: Quote Important Considerations There are two versions of the LOR Showtime Windows software, LOR I and LOR II. and Quote User Manual October 8, 2007 V1.01 Copyright © Light O Rama, Inc. 2007, 2008 Edited October 25, 2021 by k6ccc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefrus Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, k6ccc said: You skipped a few items in your first message. Let me make sure I have this right. Director > idmx - E682 > GECE lights. As I recall, the idmx1000 does not support ELOR (but I could be wrong) MP3 Director > ELOR - E682 > GECE lights. This worked fine before I upgraded to 5.6.4 now I have not figured out how to set this up in 5.6.4 and make it work like it did in 4.4.16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Reefrus said: MP3 Director > ELOR - E682 > GECE lights. OK, no IDMX in there. I don't see how that could possibly work. The E682 is strictly E1.31 input. It never has had any LOR network capability. Unless the Director has E1.31 output (and I don't think any do - but I don't use a director) there is no way this can work as described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I agree with Jim 100%. An E682 HAS to be plugged into the Ethernet port of the computer. Plugging into a LOR network may fry something and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefrus Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, PhilMassey said: I agree with Jim 100%. An E682 HAS to be plugged into the Ethernet port of the computer. Plugging into a LOR network may fry something and vice versa. The TheThe SanDevices ELOR is a protocol bridge that attaches to a LOR (Light‐O‐Rama) network and converts the LOR data into E1.31 data suitable for driving E1.31‐based controllers. It is typically used in conjunction with a pixel controller such as the SanDevices E681, but should be compatible with any E1.31 controller that accepts mThe SanDevices ELOR is a protocol bridge that attaches to a LOR (Light‐O‐Rama) network and converts the LOR data into E1.31 data suitable for driving E1.31‐based controllers. It is typically used in conjunction with a pixel controller such as the SanDevices E681, but should be compatible with any E1.31 controller that accepts multicast E1.31 data. The ELOR also provides a single universe of standard wired RS485 DMX out. Physically, the ELOR is a singlThe SanDevices ELOR is a protocol bridge that attaches to a LOR (Light‐O‐Rama) network and converts the LOR data into E1.31 data suitable for driving E1.31‐based controllers. It is typically used in conjunction with a pixel controller such as the SanDevices E681, but should be compatible with any E1.31 controller that accepts multicast E1.31 data. The ELOR also provides a single universe of standard wired RS485 DMX out. Physically, the ELOR is a single PC board measuring 2.5”x3.8”. There are four 1/8” mounting holes on 2.2”x3.5” centers. For outdoor use it is the user’s responsibility to provide a suitable enclosure. When mounting the controller in an enclosure, be sure to leave sufficient clearance at the top edge of the board to allow connection of the Ethernet cablee PC board measuring 2.5”x3.8”. There are four 1/8” mounting holes on 2.2”x3.5” centers. For outdoor use it is the user’s responsibility to provide a suitable enclosure. When mounting the controller in an enclosure, be sure to leave sufficient clearance at the top edge of the board to allow connection of the Ethernet cableulticast E1.31 data. The ELOR also provides a single universe of standard wired RS485 DMX out. Physically, the ELOR is a single PC board measuring 2.5”x3.8”. There are four 1/8” mounting holes on 2.2”x3.5” centers. For outdoor use it is the user’s responsibility to provide a suitable enclosure. When mounting the controller in an enclosure, be sure to leave sufficient clearance at the top edge of the board to allow connection of the Ethernet cable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Reefrus said: TheThe SanDevices ELOR is a protocol bridge that attaches to a LOR (Light‐O‐Rama) network and converts the LOR data into E1.31 data suitable for driving E1.31‐based controllers. That was the key piece of the puzzle. I think we were all reading the ELOR in descriptions as Enhanced Light-O-Rama protocol - not a separate piece of hardware. I don't think I knew that SanDevices ever built such a device - and it's not listed in any way on the SanDevices website that I could find.... Can't help you with any configuration for it. Since it is not listed on the SanDevices website, I would guess that it is long since discontinued. If that is the case, it very likely does not support Enhanced LOR protocol - and would therefore require non-enhanced LOR protocol. That is just a wild slightly educated guess on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 The manual I found here is dated 2012. https://manualzz.com/doc/23326009/operating-manual--sandevices-elor-light-o Is dated 2012, which is back in the days of S2 I think. Enhanced LOR networks came significantly after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefrus Posted October 25, 2021 Author Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, PhilMassey said: The manual I found here is dated 2012. https://manualzz.com/doc/23326009/operating-manual--sandevices-elor-light-o Is dated 2012, which is back in the days of S2 I think. Enhanced LOR networks came significantly after that. Same one I was reading, like I say it worked fine on version 4 but having all sorts of problems getting it to work on version 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilMassey Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Maybe ask LOR in a help desk ticket if it is still supported. A lot has changed since S4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 LOR protocol has not changed so it should still work - obviously non-enhanced and that old it may not support 500K speed either (I have not read the linked manual). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now