Ben Hopkins Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I was wondering if there was a tutorial on using the beat wizard and vu meter ?Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 It's not really a "tutorial", but have you checked the help file pages for the Beat Wizard and the VU Wizard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hopkins Posted January 10, 2008 Author Share Posted January 10, 2008 Hi BobI have read the help file, maybe I am not just understanding it correctly, I can get the main beat down with no problem, when I play with the other setting, such as 2x faster or slower it just does not look right to me. I did not know if someone out there had made a video of how to use the other setting's. I set my timing to 0.5 and after I use the beat wizard it seem to put these lines down the grids, I guess that is showing the beat as well. not sure if this makes sense to you or not ThanksBen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iresq Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 When I use the beat wizard or VU wizard, I create a new channel and select turn on a channel. Having all those timing marks gets confusion and wrecks havoc on cut and paste.Using the VU wizard, you have to turn down (more left) the threshold. Do this incrementally while previewing. You will see the trigger points and can adjust accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hopkins Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 Thanks for the tip, that help me out on the vu meter, by doing a small section of the song at a time.Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Ben Hopkins wrote: I set my timing to 0.5 and after I use the beat wizard it seem to put these lines down the gridsHi,The Beat Wizard doesn't pay any attention to where any pre-existing timings are. It just sticks timings where it thinks the beat is.I think that it's probably best to use the Beat Wizard instead of "timings every half second (or whatever)", rather than in addition to that. The combination of the two would probably be confusing.But if you do want both, note that you can put your "half second" timings in one track, and let the Beat Wizard put its timings in a different track, so that they don't get confused with each other.As for the "2x faster", that makes the Beat Wizard stick in two equally spaced timings for every one that it otherwise would have. For example, consider "Mary Had a Little Lamb". The Beat Wizard might think the beat is like this (beats shown in bold):Ma - ry - had - a - lit - tle - lamb - (rest) - lit - tle - lamb - (rest) - lit - tle - lamb - (rest)If that's what it thought the beats were, then at 1x speed, it would insert four timings, one on "Ma" and one on each of the three "lits".But if you changed it to 2x faster, it would insert eight timings:Ma - ry - had - a - lit - tle - lamb - (rest) - lit - tle - lamb - (rest) - lit - tle - lamb - (rest)And if you changed it to 2x slower, it would only insert two timings:Ma - ry - had - a - lit - tle - lamb - (rest) - lit - tle - lamb - (rest) - lit - tle - lamb - (rest)It probably would be easier to see what it's doing if you do it into a track that originally has no timings, so please give that a shot. And please let me know if you have any other questions about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hopkins Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 Thanks Bob that makes more sense since you explained it like that, I will try it out again thanks again.Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Fischer Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I use the beat wizard in a separate track, along with a track with .05 sec timings. Then you get the best of both worlds...I should create a "tracks tutorial". I don't consider myself an expert on them, but it would be a starting point for people to expand on and maybe I'd end up learning something myself...-Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Hopkins Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 Hey TimThat's a great idea for people like me, I just started to play with the tracks and that is helping me alot, but a seeing how someone else does it always helps in others learning process.Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Leonhardt Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Tim Fischer wrote: I use the beat wizard in a separate track, along with a track with .05 sec timings. Then you get the best of both worlds...I should create a "tracks tutorial". I don't consider myself an expert on them, but it would be a starting point for people to expand on and maybe I'd end up learning something myself...-TimYes Tim,You should make a tutorial, I've used LOR1 this year for the first time, have downloaded the Gamma version, but do not understand tracks yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Fischer Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Well it's officially on my to-do list, but don't expect it in the next few weeks. Could even be months, but I hope not...-Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavsher Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 I hope this is not a stupid question butdoes lor 2 have the wave with beats like d lightThanks :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightORamaDan Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 kavsher wrote: I hope this is not a stupid question butdoes lor 2 have the wave with beats like d lightThanks :?Hi,If you are talking about the waveform then LOR I and LOR II have it. In LOR II, the bew Beat Wizard actually does a reasonable job of locating the beats in he song and placing timing events in the sequence for you.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kavsher Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 cool thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike and patti Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Hi Tim, Have you had time to make that tracks tutorial? I am lost and Michaels tutorial has me stumped. I had trouble with LOR1 and more trouble with LOR2. From what I read I need to know the beat wizzard and sub divideing timings. If you have anything that you could help me with I would appreciate it.Thank you Mike and Patti from Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iresq Posted April 10, 2008 Share Posted April 10, 2008 Mike and Patti,Perhaps if you tell us were you are lost? There really is no magic to tracks, just another tool to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike and patti Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I had 32 channels last year, will have 112 this year. Very little experience last year because I started in Nov. and had to purchase some downloads to make it work last year. This year I plan on arches, mega tree, firework pole,and mini trees, some of which I had last year. I believe it would be easier to separate those four things into tracks and use the beat wizard or tapper wizard to help with the sequencing beats. I have watched Michaels tutorials on how he does the tracks and beat wizard several times and it is just not sinking in. I think I need it explained in computer dummy language for me to get it. Any help from anyone will be appreciated. Thank you Mike and Patti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael.farney Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 mike and patti wrote: I had 32 channels last year, will have 112 this year. Very little experience last year because I started in Nov. and had to purchase some downloads to make it work last year. This year I plan on arches, mega tree, firework pole,and mini trees, some of which I had last year. I believe it would be easier to separate those four things into tracks and use the beat wizard or tapper wizard to help with the sequencing beats. I have watched Michaels tutorials on how he does the tracks and beat wizard several times and it is just not sinking in. I think I need it explained in computer dummy language for me to get it. Any help from anyone will be appreciated. Thank you Mike and PattiIs there a particular piece that is confusing? You'll find the forums more helpful if you ask very pointed, specific questions. A general question about the whole process can be very difficult to answer.Also, don't be afraid to offer constructive criticism on the videos. It will help make future tutorials easier to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Mike and Patti,Using the beat wizard can also make sweeps and/or chases a snap. Take the number of elements you're working with (say a nine-section arch) and subdivide a beat into that many (9) segments. And if the number of things you're working with are multiples of four, so much the better.Tim,I'm looking forward to your tutorial.George Simmons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimCanfield Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 George Simmons wrote: Mike and Patti,Using the beat wizard can also make sweeps and/or chases a snap. Take the number of elements you're working with (say a nine-section arch) and subdivide a beat into that many (9) segments. And if the number of things you're working with are multiples of four, so much the better.Tim,I'm looking forward to your tutorial.George SimmonsWow Goerge, never thought of that. Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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