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RS485B/Hardware Utility Problem


Tim_L

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I am having a problem where my machine doesn't find the RS485B
adapter. I used this with no problems last year on my Win XP Pro machine
but nothing that I try is working. I even tried it on my laptop running
Vista. Both machines see that it is plugged in, neither will find it in
the hardware utility. XP Pro machine is running LOR software 1.6.1
Hardware version 1.6.6 is running on both machines.

My Vista laptop is running 1.6.3 and Hardware version 1.6.6

The only difference between this year and last is that I upgraded the LOR
software 1.6.1 and Hardware version 1.6.6 and of course the normal
Microsoft weekly OS patches.

Tthe XP machine is the one that did the shows last year. I would
ultimately rather get it running on the Vista Laptop.

On the XP Machine
The device manager shows the 485B as being on Comm 3 which is in fact,
what it was set to last year. In the hardware utility, it is set to Comm
3. Auto Configure fails to find it, and it cannot find the 8 port
controller that is connected to it. Just in case of a controller prob, I
have tried 2 different 8 port controllers. Both had blinking red lights.

Unable to locate the Light-O-Rama port.
Check that controller is connected and that it is powered on.

Because of access errors not all ports were checked.
Using the Light-O-Rama control panel make sure that shows are disabled.

I did in fact verify that shows are disabled.

On the Vista Machine
The device manager shows the 485B as being on Comm 4
In the hardware utility, it is set to Comm 4
Auto Configure fails to find it, and it also cannot find the 8 port
controller that is connected to it. Auto Configure returns the following
message.

Unable to locate the Light-O-Rama port.
Check that controller is connected and that it is powered on.

Please help!. I need to get the firmware updated on my 12 controllers.

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longshot, but I had this prob at the beginning of the year and had to replace my network cat5 cable going from the adaptor to the LOR controller. That worked for me.

Another time, I thought my controller was bad because only half of the 16-channel controller had the blinking red light. LOR support informed me I had to power both sides of the controller for the software to recognize it. It worked after I plugged in both sides of the controller.

Beyond that, I wish you luck my friend! Certainly can be stressful trying to figure this kind of stuff out as the clock ticks away before Halloween and Christmas display lighting ceremonies!

medman

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Cable works fine. I am using it on my laptop as I am typing this.
Both controllers that I had plugged in were 8 channel controllers.
Dan is sending me a new one so that we can at least rule that out as being the culprit.

Thanks,
Tim

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It seems that the USB485B may be damaged. Do you have another RS485 adapter that you could try to see if all other components are working properly?

If not, you could try a complete removal and re-installation of the USB driver software on one of your PCs. Here is a troubleshooting note I wrote but haven't completely proofed yet:

http://www.lightorama.com/Documents/RS485_Adapter_Troubleshooting.pdf

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Hi John,
No, I do not have another USB485B adapter so I can't try that.

I followed the instructions for both my XP Pro machine and my Vista laptop and neither machine will find USB485B adapter. Also, no errors when removing or reinstalling the FTDI on either machine.

Tim

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The USB485B is probably broken. Autoconfigure works by polling any attached controller. If it can write the poll or read the response then it won't find the port. Since you've tried two controllers, two PCs, reloaded the drivers and used the cable to connect to a LAN, that seems to leave the USB485B.

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Man, what the heck!!!!!!
I got the new USB485B, plugged it into my xp machine after removing the old one.
The new one goes to Comm 8 thought maybe that was a good sign.

Brought up hardware utility and did an Auto Configure. Cannot find the USB485B however, the controller light went solid red.

Set the Manual Select to Comm 8, did a refresh to find the controller, zero units found. :X

I also tested to see if it would turn channel 1 on to no avail.

Same exact deal on Vista except, that it goes to Comm 5 instead of Comm 8.

9600, 8-N-1-N are the port settings.
USB transfer settings = 4096 send and receive
BM options16
Timeouts = 0
Seriel Enumerator is the only thing checked under Misc. Options.

I also used the new USB cable that was included with the new USB485B

What in the #%*! is up with this?

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Tim_L wrote:

Man, what the heck!!!!!!
I got the new USB485B, plugged it into my xp machine after removing the old one.
The new one goes to Comm 8 thought maybe that was a good sign.

Brought up hardware utility and did an Auto Configure. Cannot find the USB485B however, the controller light went solid red.

Set the Manual Select to Comm 8, did a refresh to find the controller, zero units found. :X

I also tested to see if it would turn channel 1 on to no avail.

Same exact deal on Vista except, that it goes to Comm 5 instead of Comm 8.

9600, 8-N-1-N are the port settings.
USB transfer settings = 4096 send and receive
BM options16
Timeouts = 0
Seriel Enumerator is the only thing checked under Misc. Options.

I also used the new USB cable that was included with the new USB485B

What in the #%*! is up with this?




A couple of questions:

Does the controller that you were trying to control have a Unit ID switch on it so that you know for sure what the Unit ID is?

You said that you tried to turn on channel 1. At that time was the LED solid and had you set the unit ID to the correct value. If you have hardware utility 1.6.6 then you can use the Console and set the unit ID there when testing.

Dan
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Dan,
I again ran the ftclean this AM, reinstalled the driver and am now on Comm 3 instead of Comm 8. I entered the Hardware utility and viola, it found the USB485B and the controller. My test of turning on channel 1, works fine as well. ;)

Just for the heck of it, I put the old USB485B back in, it went back to Comm 8 and the Hardware Utility could not find it. Do you want me to ship it to you for a autopsy or do you want me to toss it?

How often do these things go bad? Should I buy a couple to have on hand?

Thanks for your help Dan and John. I really appreciate it.

Now, I have to go update the firmware on all of these controllers.

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