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I finally tested my new icicles with an actual LOR sequence.  I LOVE THIS HOBBY!! :D

 

They all work wonderfully!  Wireless via the Netgear Shaggy suggested.. 8 universes at 150 pixels each! 

 

I did this for my wife because she misses her old icicle setup that I don't use anymore because although programmable, they were not real time.  These are so real time..  They were getting to be 10 years old also... couldn't get the chips anymore. 

 

I will follow with some video in the next couple of days..

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Here is a short iphone vid of a section of a programmed song. There are 8 universes and all data is being sent via a wireless bridge.  One 24vdc power supply,  Two 6804 board, Six pixel extenders, 18 DC-DC converters, , , one null pixel cable, LOR S3 and a partridge in a pear tree.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dhe53tamz9kno88/IMG_3402.MOV

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Nice.  did you use the long green wire from the bottom of each icicle back up to the next cable cord?

 

What controller are you using there?  looks like my 512 from Ray.

Thanks.   I cut 5' cables from Ray leaving that green wire long to pass the data to the next icicle.  The rest of the wires were cut short and soldered to the front at the top. 

 

For the controllers I am using E6804 x 2.  I also uses some Pixel Extenders from J1S for the long distance leads. 

I actually bought the DMX to 2811 converters from Ray but didn't use them because I went with the Extenders.  (have 10 of those controller for sale... ha ha) 

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How was the programming done for these icicle lights?

 

Do you have close up pictures of the icicle lights?

 

Amazing work!


Sorry, now found the link to see how you created them!  Awesome work!!!!!

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WOW!!!

 

Looks like there are 3 different lengths of strips??

 

what lengths did you use and what is the spacing between strips??

 

It certainly does look like you have a fire burning at the end

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How was the programming done for these icicle lights?

 

Do you have close up pictures of the icicle lights?

 

Amazing work!

Sorry, now found the link to see how you created them!  Awesome work!!!!!

The programming I have been using is a combo of LOR S3 and Nutcracker.  For some effects it is easier to do them in Nutcracker and save as a clipboard for LOR.  Then paste them in.

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WOW!!!

 

Looks like there are 3 different lengths of strips??

 

what lengths did you use and what is the spacing between strips??

 

It certainly does look like you have a fire burning at the end

There are 3 lengths.  6,10,14 pixels.  That is what I call a group. That equals 1m of 30 pixels.  I get 5 of those from 1 of Ray's reels. 

The cables are cut from Rays 4 core 5' cables.  I use the cables and hack them up so I have long enough wires that allow me to run the DO wire down the back side of the sleeve.  The cables from the icicle wind up at about 12" each. 

 

My spacing is a bit different on each segment.  It ranges from 12"-14".. or there abouts between icicles.  Everything is hung on 1/2" EMT which is mounted via Minerallac clamps screwed into the wood.  That allows me to do whatever spacing I need without regard to where the trusses are.

That fire effect is courtesy of Nutcracker.  It is built in to their software.

Glad you liked it.

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This is phenomenal!!

Mass produce? Hmmm. I notice a pattern of three repeated icicles. So could one of Ray's sources create modules of three icicles? We would then buy however many we need.

For that matter, why not make them all identical length? The varying length look could be handled in programming and now you have a massive matrix across the roofline. In summer it could scroll "Get off my lawn, you hoodlums!"

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This is phenomenal!!

Mass produce? Hmmm. I notice a pattern of three repeated icicles. So could one of Ray's sources create modules of three icicles? We would then buy however many we need.

For that matter, why not make them all identical length? The varying length look could be handled in programming and now you have a massive matrix across the roofline. In summer it could scroll "Get off my lawn, you hoodlums!"

Thanks..

 

They could be mass produced.  Ray actually has some in tubes that take DMX directly but at $19 each they were outside my budget. 

 

I did the three lengths because I wanted to have the chopped up look.  Had I left them all the same length and dealt with it in software my pixel count would have been another 480 pixels at 3 channels each.  Also with this combo I used complete rolls of 5 meters without waste.  I could have made them all 15 pixels and gotten 10 out of a roll instead of 15, but again, lots of channels added.

 

So all in all I confess that I would love to had a matrix up there.. but the spacing would not have made it look as good as a matrix I think.. Icicles are what she wanted.. and that is what she got.. Oh yeah, did I mention, my wife wanted icicles.  LOL

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Hey Plasmadrive,

What are you using to run these? How many drops per output or controller, (depending on Sandevices or a single Universe controller, respectively). The reason I ask is, I have 20 pixcicles this year and I split the Universe between 2, single Universe controllers. Just wondering if I could get a whole universe out of a single controller and double up on the drops next year. I haven't tested it yet. just wondering about signal drop with that much wire. Power injection is not a problem, but with Pixel string wire, Pixels and the wire between drops, I have about 40 ft, of wire. My first pixel is about 18 inches from the first controller. Just wondering in your opinion or anyone else, if There may be a data loss all the way to the end.

 

Thanks for any insight,

Ron

 

By the way, yours are quite spectacular. I actually like the effect I got with mine so much that I'm planning on 3 or 4 times as many next year

 

Icicles are what she wanted.. and that is what she got.. Oh yeah, did I mention, my wife wanted icicles. LOL

 

Happy wife, Happy Life

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Hi Ron,

 

I am using two E6804s.  4 universes per controller, one per output.  I didn't do two universes per outout like it says you can because programming would have been a nightmare at the time and I didn't want to make too long of data runs from the controller, (I didn't know about the Pixel Extenders when I designed all this).

 

For long wire runs I ran into all kinds of problems.  I have up to 60' on one run and as low as 5' on another.  For the runs over 15' I made null pixel cables that worked on the ground just fine but when bundled with other cables they flickered and flashed and caused me great grief.  I tried remaking them shorter and shorter between the nulls until I gave up.  So I got J1Sys Pixel Extenders.  That solved all my wire length issue.  But again, my issues were only for the first injection point.  At 18" you are golden.  I actually have a Ray Wu 5' four core cable between some of my pixels where I had to go around corners.  I have no issue with those lengths at all.

 

Once you inject the first signal if your other pixels are not far away, you are home free.  It is about a 8' wire length for my longest data line from pixel to pixel, (that includes a 5' jumper), and my average is about 3'.   I have no problems with that what so ever.  I do inject power ever 30 pixels though.  This keeps me at no lower than about 4.75vdc everywhere.  My white is white throughout, and that was my biggest goal power wise.  It also keeps my data refresh voltage from pixel to pixel very high and clean.. at least I think it does!  In the dropbox folder there is a PDF with my power distro scheme if you care to look at it. 

 

Thanks for the compliment.. and you are right, "happy wife, happy life"   ;)

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