Sabre03 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Upgrading a couple of my controllers to 20 amps per side. Where Do I buy the fuses? are they the same as fast act microwave fuses?Thanks Edited October 11, 2012 by Sabre03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdeditch Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Upgrading a couple of my controllers to 20 amps per side. Where Do I buy the fuses? are they the same as fast act microwave fuses?ThanksYes they are the same as a Microwave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Specify 20A (or 15A) when ordering (great price but will take 2-4 weeks to arrive since on the slow boat from China):http://www.ebay.com/...=item564d455ae620A (arrive in 2-6 days):http://www.ebay.com/...=item3f1ac2913715A ones (arrive in 2-6 days):http://www.ebay.com/...25526787&_rdc=1I bought the last 2 previously and was pleased--arrived quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Specify 20A (or 15A) when ordering (great price but will take 2-4 weeks to arrive since on the slow boat from China):I bought the last 2 previously and was pleased--arrived quick.Or...Just go to your local hardware store (Lowe's, HomeDepot) and buy some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Or...Just go to your local hardware store (Lowe's, HomeDepot) and buy some.True but one is at about the same price as 20 of them online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre03 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Light O Rama recommend a ceramic fuse, and there is a difference in the way the fuse acts between a glass fuse and a ceramic fuse. what has your experience been using a glass fuse? or is everyone using ceramic Edited October 11, 2012 by Sabre03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryM Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Use the ceramic fuse. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre03 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) that's what I'm going to do, don't need to take any chances. I picked up some 20 amp ceramic microwave fuses from Home Depot this will take care of my immediate need and I will order replacements. the links posted above say agc 20 amp, the ceramic microwave fuses I bought this morning say abc 20 amp. which is correct Edited October 11, 2012 by Sabre03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisquit476 Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 These should work also.http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=0314020.HXPvirtualkey57610000virtualkey576-0314020.HXP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 True but one is at about the same price as 20 of them online.True. Just providing a local source for folks needing them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre03 Posted October 11, 2012 Author Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) I figured it out ABC is fast acting ceramic fuse agc is fast acting glass fuse Edited October 11, 2012 by Sabre03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 (edited) Light O Rama recommend a ceramic fuse, and there is a difference in the way the fuse acts between a glass fuse and a ceramic fuse. what has your experience been using a glass fuse? or is everyone using ceramicOverlooked your last question.For me, I've used both glass and ceramic and didn't see any difference in performance between the two.BUT... here is more in depth info about each type.In a glass fuse, the element is visible, and this makes inspection easy, while a ceramic fuse is opaque. A glass fuse has a low breaking or rupturing capacity. What this means is that the fuse element melts when there is a high current or voltage. It is therefore not suitable for appliances and equipments that draw a lot of current. Ceramic fuses, on the other hand, have a high breaking or rupturing capacity and are suitable for high current and voltage circuits. Some ceramic HRC (high rupturing capacity) fuses can safely interrupt upto 300,000 amperes of current, while normal glass fuses have a much lower capacity, sometimes as low as only 15 amperes.Glass fuses have a low thermal stability and shatter in high-heat conditions. Ceramic fuses, on the other hand, can withstand high temperatures and are more thermally stable.Ceramic fuses, unlike glass fuses, are also often filled with a filler like sand to prevent the formation of a conductive film. When there is a short circuit, the fuse element melts and vaporizes. It deposits on the inside of the barrel or body as a film. In a glass fuse, the body continues to get heated and the film begins to conduct electricity, thus rendering the fuse inefficient. The sand in a ceramic fuse, however, absorbs the heat energy and prevents the fuse from heating and therefore conducting. Edited October 11, 2012 by Santas Helper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Glass fuses have a low thermal stability and shatter in high-heat conditions. Ceramic fuses, on the other hand, can withstand high temperatures and are more thermally stable.Another option, using a short length of copper tubing, doesn't have any of these problems. (Yes, I'm just kidding!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitePlainsNY Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Shockingly I don't know the answer to the following. How do you tell if a ceramic fuse is still good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Shockingly I don't know the answer to the following. How do you tell if a ceramic fuse is still good?Test it with a multimeter. Instructions 1 Always make sure there is no power going to the fuse you wish to test. If it is an appliance, make sure it is unplugged before you go further. If it's a fuse in your home wiring, it's safer to turn the power off in case there is a short in the fuse box. Blown fuses mean something has gone wrong, and caution is warranted. 2 Remove the fuse, using your fuse puller. If the fuse is a screw-in type, simply unscrew the fuse. Place the fuse on a table with good lighting. 3 Plug in the red and white wires to your volt-ohm meter as per manufacturers instructions, and set the volt-ohm meter to continuity or ohms, depending on manufacturer guidelines. Touch the end probes of the wires together and look at the reading on the volt-ohm meter. (Do not touch the metal parts of the probe with your fingers, as your body will conduct the electricity, which can give a false reading). The needle on your analog display should give a reading of zero. A digital display will display the continuity symbol, or "0.00" . Some will beep when continuity is achieved. Once you know your tester is working properly you can test the fuse. 4 Touch the red probe to one end cap of a tubular fuse. Touch the other end cap of the fuse with the black probe. Check your meter. If the needle does not point to zero (analog) or show "OL" (over limit) on a digital unit, then the fuse is blown. Test a screw-in fuse by touching the red probe to the center contact at the bottom of the fuse and the black probe to the screw section of the fuse. Check your meter for continuity using the guidelines above. Touch the red probe to one of tab on a car fuse and the black probe to the other tab and check the reading on the meter for continuity.[*]Or if your electrically experienced, check for voltage on each end of the fuse (120vac) but beware, live electricity is needed for this test. You should get the same voltage on each end. Edited October 12, 2012 by Santas Helper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Another option, using a short length of copper tubing, doesn't have any of these problems. (Yes, I'm just kidding!)Steven, I've done that (when I was younger and not as wise). BUT do "not" recomend it for safety reasons obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Oops - quoted myself Edited October 12, 2012 by Santas Helper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) Light O Rama recommend a ceramic fuse, and there is a difference in the way the fuse acts between a glass fuse and a ceramic fuse. what has your experience been using a glass fuse? or is everyone using ceramicI figured it out ABC is fast acting ceramic fuse agc is fast acting glass fuseThe above ebay links for fuses are definitely ceramic fuses, as the descriptions clearly say (and as I have experienced from purchasing). You definitely should ONLY use CERAMIC fuses in your controllers. Edited October 12, 2012 by Surfing4Dough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Ford Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I found some fuses at radio shack but they say "20 amp 250 volt" is this what I need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I found some fuses at radio shack but they say "20 amp 250 volt" is this what I need?Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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