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5 hours ago, GriswoldStyle said:

Those look pretty easy to make. What did you use for the inside of them? The video makes it look white inside. Is that coroplast?  Would be interested in making something like that to create some mini trees to use for the floods for Christmas. 

They were very easy to make - I did all four in one day.  the inside is lined with thick plastic sheeting used for covering floors.  I almost got something thicker, but the 5 mil (or is it 7 mil?) plastic sheeting was suitable for my needs.  I used white duct tape to connect the three pieces to make the tree - completely invisible on the white lattice.  I left one side partially untaped at the bottom so I could access the RGB when needed.

The great thing is these store completely flat once the season is over.

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3 hours ago, Jaynee said:

They were very easy to make - I did all four in one day.  the inside is lined with thick plastic sheeting used for covering floors.  I almost got something thicker, but the 5 mil (or is it 7 mil?) plastic sheeting was suitable for my needs.  I used white duct tape to connect the three pieces to make the tree - completely invisible on the white lattice.  I left one side partially untaped at the bottom so I could access the RGB when needed.

The great thing is these store completely flat once the season is over.

Sounds really easy. Was that a schematic/diagram online to make them or was it free hand? Would be very interested in a how to post or tutorial if you ever consider doing that.  I'm a prop junkie. If I can build it myself, I would rather save $10 than to buy something outright lol. I'm curious, How do they store flat? Are they 3 side or 4 side with hinges? Sorry dont mean to take over the post. Could you pm me if you have a drawing or photos? I just ordered mine for halloween but would like to use them for christmas as well. The tomato cage minis I made take up alot of space.

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13 hours ago, GriswoldStyle said:

Sounds really easy. Was that a schematic/diagram online to make them or was it free hand? Would be very interested in a how to post or tutorial if you ever consider doing that.  I'm a prop junkie. If I can build it myself, I would rather save $10 than to buy something outright lol. I'm curious, How do they store flat? Are they 3 side or 4 side with hinges? Sorry dont mean to take over the post. Could you pm me if you have a drawing or photos? I just ordered mine for halloween but would like to use them for christmas as well. The tomato cage minis I made take up alot of space.

It was all freehand.  I bought several 6'x8' lattice panels at the local big box, had a friend cut them - each tree has three sides.  I did two different heights - 2 at 5' and 2 at 7' (I think).  Once cut I laid them out flat on the ground and used white duct tape to connect three of them together and to tape the plastic sheeting on the inside. No hinges, although I'm sure you could do that if you wanted.  My duct tape has survived two years and shows no sign of wear/tear.  The star toppers just rest inside the top and the plug/cord that dangles down holds them in place with no problem.  

To stake them, we do two things - we used long metal stakes in the ground through each side at the bottom, but then we also run fishing line from the top and tied to the metal stake.  Only in a really bad wind have we had one fall down.

When the season is over, we take off the duct tape on the "back" side (which is not duct taped the whole way) and then straighten them out to put them in storage. 

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8 minutes ago, Jaynee said:

It was all freehand.  I bought several 6'x8' lattice panels at the local big box, had a friend cut them - each tree has three sides.  I did two different heights - 2 at 5' and 2 at 7' (I think).  Once cut I laid them out flat on the ground and used white duct tape to connect three of them together and to tape the plastic sheeting on the inside. No hinges, although I'm sure you could do that if you wanted.  My duct tape has survived two years and shows no sign of wear/tear.  The star toppers just rest inside the top and the plug/cord that dangles down holds them in place with no problem.  

To stake them, we do two things - we used long metal stakes in the ground on each side at the bottom, but then we also run fishing line from the top and tied to the metal stake.  Only in a really bad wind have we had one fall down.

When the season is over, we take off the duct tape on the "back" side (which is not duct taped the whole way) and then straighten them out to put them in storage. 

Awesome! Thank you so much. I am going to give those a try. The mini trees just were not what I wanted last year using the tomato cages. They did not look right to me so this year I can add a better element to them with your design. How many sheets of lattice did you need? Was it the wood ones or the white plastic lattice? Can't wait to try these out. Sounds like a fun and easy project. Thanks again so much for this idea

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1 minute ago, GriswoldStyle said:

Awesome! Thank you so much. I am going to give those a try. The mini trees just were not what I wanted last year using the tomato cages. They did not look right to me so this year I can add a better element to them with your design. How many sheets of lattice did you need? Was it the wood ones or the white plastic lattice? Can't wait to try these out. Sounds like a fun and easy project. Thanks again so much for this idea

I used the white plastic lattice - I knew they would last longer in the winter weather than wood.  I think I bought 4 sheets - but I honestly don't remember. You can see them in my display here starting at 1:57:

 

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On 1/30/2018 at 2:26 PM, Scott Tuthill said:

I bought the package of 8 10W RGB floods and controller this year during the sale. I have always wanted to incorporate them in my show. However when I started experimenting with them I just could not get effects that looked good. It is the difference between direct illumination as with lights and reflected illumination of the floods. I tried shining them up in trees and against the house. Reds would show up reasonably well, greens marginally so, and then white would just illuminate whatever it was pointing at with its native colors. (of course.) So I am wondering if anyone has come up with any creative uses for RGB floods they can share. I thought about building mini-trees from upside down wire plant cages, wrapping them in a white translucent material with a flood under each. But, am hoping someone out there has already come up with the ultimate use for RGB Floods in a show.

Thanks in advance for your ideas.

Scott

As a lot of people do we use them to create a "wall washer" effect. 

I've been considering buying another set to face "out" to really give those bright pops something a little... more? But can't decide if it's worth it yet.

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53 minutes ago, DisneyMatt10 said:

As a lot of people do we use them to create a "wall washer" effect. 

I've been considering buying another set to face "out" to really give those bright pops something a little... more? But can't decide if it's worth it yet.

I can vouch and tell you, it's worth it.

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Quick question for those with RGB floods.... On the plug-in show flood light set, it says it comes with a 200 watt power supply. However it only comes with the eight LED floods that are only 10 watts each. (80 watts)

So would you be able to double the floods? Meaning add an additional flood on a channel. So basically two flood lights per Channel outpet if I added individual floods rather than buying another kit. Or can I use the 8 RGB flood outputs AND add a 16' LED strip to the same channel output.

Would that be possible? I haven't got the kit yet as I bought it in the spring sale so I haven't gone through the paperwork on it to see just figured I would ask if you all have any experience doing this.

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10 hours ago, GriswoldStyle said:

Quick question for those with RGB floods.... On the plug-in show flood light set, it says it comes with a 200 watt power supply. However it only comes with the eight LED floods that are only 10 watts each. (80 watts)

So would you be able to double the floods? Meaning add an additional flood on a channel. So basically two flood lights per Channel outpet if I added individual floods rather than buying another kit. Or can I use the 8 RGB flood outputs AND add a 16' LED strip to the same channel output.

Would that be possible? I haven't got the kit yet as I bought it in the spring sale so I haven't gone through the paperwork on it to see just figured I would ask if you all have any experience doing this.

You can add lights/RGB to the existing power supply but remember if if adding them to channels on the same controller, to not go over the recommended output for each channel. 

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5 hours ago, Santas Helper said:

You can add lights/RGB to the existing power supply but remember if if adding them to channels on the same controller, to not go over the recommended output for each channel. 

10W is a little less than 1A @ 12V, so you could go up to 4 on some channels.  You can ALSO add another (weather resistant) supply (mount external) and split the banks (the inputs are bonded together for a Single PSU)

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On 4/11/2018 at 11:57 AM, Jaynee said:

I made trees using lattice last year and use dumb RGB floods in those:

 

This is a GREAT IDEA!!  nicely done.

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23 hours ago, TheDucks said:

10W is a little less than 1A @ 12V, so you could go up to 4 on some channels.  You can ALSO add another (weather resistant) supply (mount external) and split the banks (the inputs are bonded together for a Single PSU)

Thanks for that info. I am new to rgb floods and just researching them until mine arrive so I havent got the kit yet. Just ordered it but if you all know where I can find the specs sheet please let me know.

I was looking to see if I can add 2 floods 10w floods per output. Seeing as there is 8 rgb outputs on the board, I was wondering if I can double it to say 16 floods and just add two per output without going over the max output. If not I will just buy another board and power supply. But trying to see if I really need to buy it at this point. No sense buying a second it the board can handle it.

I don't really need 16 floods. More like only 12 but figured I would ask you guys about this since you all know the specs.. 

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Yes, you should be fine running two 10W floods on each RGB output set on a CMB24D

 

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3 hours ago, k6ccc said:

Yes, you should be fine running two 10W floods on each RGB output set on a CMB24D

 

Thank you so much for the reply. I figured that was the case but wanted to make sure. I'm going to buy another CMB240 board this summer but use it for rgb headstones for Halloween. Then just use the plug n show flood kit for the floods. Thanks again

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4 hours ago, GriswoldStyle said:

Thanks for that info. I am new to rgb floods and just researching them until mine arrive so I havent got the kit yet. Just ordered it but if you all know where I can find the specs sheet please let me know.

I was looking to see if I can add 2 floods 10w floods per output. Seeing as there is 8 rgb outputs on the board, I was wondering if I can double it to say 16 floods and just add two per output without going over the max output. If not I will just buy another board and power supply. But trying to see if I really need to buy it at this point. No sense buying a second it the board can handle it.

I don't really need 16 floods. More like only 12 but figured I would ask you guys about this since you all know the specs.. 

You can safely pull 160W continuously from that 200W supply. That  is 16 Floods.  Since we rarely leave them on for (4+) hours,  you can peak at the full 200W (20 floods)

Also, the CMB24D can  30A per BANK  (60 floods, both banks). all you need is another Supply , wire 1 per bank.  Since, 60 seems like a huge amount of floods in a close (say 40 radius from the controller), 2 controllers (locations) might make more sense, even if the load is not an issue.

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