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On 1/29/2017 at 5:25 PM, caniac said:

... for zip ties you need to go to www.monoprice.com, I buy 10,000 zip ties for the price of two packages (100ct) at Harbor Freight.  and that is including the shipping!! 

I've been buying zip ties from Monoprice for 6 or 7 years.  Hands down the best value and excellent quality.

I ran out and stopped in at Harbor Freight and bought some of theirs.  I literally threw hundreds of them away.  The worst zip ties I've EVER bought - anywhere.

 

On 1/29/2017 at 6:54 PM, Darryl Lambert said:

I buy all my zip ties HERE . Great prices

Wow - those ARE some great prices.  Figures...  I've got 5000 from Monoprice being delivered tomorrow. 

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Tried to find online, no luck. Tomato Trellis is the product name? Any label to show who makes them? Thanks!


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6 hours ago, George Simmons said:

I ran out and stopped in at Harbor Freight and bought some of theirs.  I literally threw hundreds of them away.  The worst zip ties I've EVER bought - anywhere.

I ran into the same thing George. I bought some from there HF and they were junk. They would break as I cinched them tight. That was in mild weather too. So I chunked them as well.

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48 minutes ago, whitebuck said:

 

 


Tried to find online, no luck. Tomato Trellis is the product name? Any label to show who makes them? Thanks!


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you won't find them online, they are a WalMart brand and usually show up in the garden center of your local WalMart in the spring.

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33 minutes ago, caniac said:

you won't find them online, they are a WalMart brand and usually show up in the garden center of your local WalMart in the spring.

Im going to start looking today since it gets warmer here earlier our garden stuff comes out earlier. If I find them I will post up and willing to take orders for "exact amount plus actual S/H" to help you all out.

No extra fees. I will probably just buy them as I see them and post as I go

JR

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I think I might be taking a different approach to mini trees than most. After a lot of thought and planning, I decided to go with spiral mini trees, to mimic my spiral mega tree, (Maybe... we shall see...) However, what I thought was going to be an easy switch, has turned into an annoying headache. . . Like a lot of things do in this hobby... lol. So what I did:

1.) I went out and bought a lot of those old school plastic spiral Christmas trees: (Thought I had bought enough, but ended up going back and buying more.)

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2.) I then took all of the traditional incandescent lights off of the tree: (bye bye lights)

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3.) And finally I zip-tied a strip of intelligent pixels to the remaining plastic structure:

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I still need to work on the star at the top of the tree. . . I'm trying to figure out how to open it to insert pixels into it. . . But it seems pretty sealed shut. Oh well, I'll find a way!!

I'm hoping that the trees turn out the way I want them to turn out. . . As you can see I bought a lot of them. I think it will be interesting to watch the lights spiral up and down the tree, and chase around the tree. . . I'm just hoping what I have in-visioned in my mind turns out to be as awesome as I am hoping!! Thankfully I'll know soon enough! My new controllers get delivered today!!

Is it to early to start testing lights?? :huh:

I know this might not be the exact mini trees you are looking for, but maybe an idea for future expansions! :) 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, DisneyMatt10 said:

I think I might be taking a different approach to mini trees than most. After a lot of thought and planning, I decided to go with spiral mini trees, to mimic my spiral mega tree, (Maybe... we shall see...) However, what I thought was going to be an easy switch, has turned into an annoying headache. . . Like a lot of things do in this hobby... lol. So what I did:

1.) I went out and bought a lot of those old school plastic spiral Christmas trees: (Thought I had bought enough, but ended up going back and buying more.)

15697342_10158244530905643_7067122667812 

 

2.) I then took all of the traditional incandescent lights off of the tree: (bye bye lights)

16427610_10158456211455643_5408917213923

 

3.) And finally I zip-tied a strip of intelligent pixels to the remaining plastic structure:

16427465_10158456211430643_1794094004689

 

I still need to work on the star at the top of the tree. . . I'm trying to figure out how to open it to insert pixels into it. . . But it seems pretty sealed shut. Oh well, I'll find a way!!

I'm hoping that the trees turn out the way I want them to turn out. . . As you can see I bought a lot of them. I think it will be interesting to watch the lights spiral up and down the tree, and chase around the tree. . . I'm just hoping what I have in-visioned in my mind turns out to be as awesome as I am hoping!! Thankfully I'll know soon enough! My new controllers get delivered today!!

Is it to early to start testing lights?? :huh:

I know this might not be the exact mini trees you are looking for, but maybe an idea for future expansions! :) 

 

 

You may be able to bake the star in the oven, about 300 degrees. I used to bake headlights apart for members of my car club. Just placed them on a cookie sheet for 15-30 mins. Just depends on how they put them together. Never hurts to try.

If you do get them apart just use silicone to put them together and place back in the oven for a few minutes.

Maybe a dremel with a very thib cutting wheel since the star must be hollow it shouldn't be very thick plastic. I prefer baking but just depends on how they molded them.

JR

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2 minutes ago, dibblejr said:

You may be able to bake the star in the oven, about 300 degrees. I used to bake headlights apart for members of my car club. Just placed them on a cookie sheet for 15-30 mins. Just depends on how they put them together. Never hurts to try.

If you do get them apart just use silicone to put them together and place back in the oven for a few minutes.

Maybe a dremel with a very thib cutting wheel since the star must be hollow it shouldn't be very thick plastic. I prefer baking but just depends on how they molded them.

JR

Thanks for the tips!! I'll try the oven idea. Never hurts to try!

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6 minutes ago, DisneyMatt10 said:

Thanks for the tips!! I'll try the oven idea. Never hurts to try!

Can you see how they are put together. Is it glue, silicone or plastic welded. (cant remember what the process is called)

Don't get impatient and ramp the heat up, last thing you want to do is melt the wiring or even worse the entire start. I have seen people burn their headlight up and then calling me to see if I could fix it. Nothing I can do with a blob of plastic with a light bulb and wires stuck to it.

300 is normally a safe temp, you may smell plastic just keep an eye on it. Use a good pair of gloaves or towel to try and pull apart.

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4 minutes ago, dibblejr said:

Can you see how they are put together. Is it glue, silicone or plastic welded. (cant remember what the process is called)

I have no idea how they are put together. I can see what looks like 2 little screw holes on each point of the star, but there doesn't appear to be a screw in the holes. I'm not seeing any silver that would indicate a screw. It's all clear.

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2 minutes ago, DisneyMatt10 said:

I have no idea how they are put together. I can see what looks like 2 little screw holes on each point of the star, but there doesn't appear to be a screw in the holes. I'm not seeing any silver that would indicate a screw. It's all clear.

That sounds like how they make them to move them around on the assembly line. I doubt they are useful. How about a seem around the edge?

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If you can take a good pic of the edge where the 2 halves meet. If its plastic welded then the oven wont work.

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8 minutes ago, dibblejr said:

If you can take a good pic of the edge where the 2 halves meet. If its plastic welded then the oven wont work.

i think the photos looked better on my phone screen than they do on the computer. But either way, here they are:

 

Not sure what that cut out square is for, but there is one on each side of every point.

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Here are the holes I was talking about:

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One of the edges is already coming on done. . . 

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A full edge shot:

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Hope this helps explain it a little better!

 

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The only down side to using strip is that you wont be able to see the lights on the back quarter or so of the tree..  Let us all know how things work...

 

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5 minutes ago, k6ccc said:

The only down side to using strip is that you wont be able to see the lights on the back quarter or so of the tree..  Let us all know how things work...

 

Yeah... I thought about that. I've also considered adding lights to the inside of the spiral as well, depending on how it turns out. Still waiting for my controller to get here, then I can find out for sure! I'll let you all know how it goes!

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1 hour ago, DisneyMatt10 said:

I think I might be taking a different approach to mini trees than most. After a lot of thought and planning, I decided to go with spiral mini trees, to mimic my spiral mega tree, (Maybe... we shall see...) However, what I thought was going to be an easy switch, has turned into an annoying headache. . . Like a lot of things do in this hobby... lol. So what I did:

1.) I went out and bought a lot of those old school plastic spiral Christmas trees: (Thought I had bought enough, but ended up going back and buying more.)

15697342_10158244530905643_7067122667812 

 

2.) I then took all of the traditional incandescent lights off of the tree: (bye bye lights)

16427610_10158456211455643_5408917213923

 

3.) And finally I zip-tied a strip of intelligent pixels to the remaining plastic structure:

16427465_10158456211430643_1794094004689

 

I still need to work on the star at the top of the tree. . . I'm trying to figure out how to open it to insert pixels into it. . . But it seems pretty sealed shut. Oh well, I'll find a way!!

I'm hoping that the trees turn out the way I want them to turn out. . . As you can see I bought a lot of them. I think it will be interesting to watch the lights spiral up and down the tree, and chase around the tree. . . I'm just hoping what I have in-visioned in my mind turns out to be as awesome as I am hoping!! Thankfully I'll know soon enough! My new controllers get delivered today!!

Is it to early to start testing lights?? :huh:

I know this might not be the exact mini trees you are looking for, but maybe an idea for future expansions! :) 

 

 

Matt, that needs to come to the OKC mini. :)

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4 minutes ago, Santas Helper said:

Matt, that needs to come to the OKC mini. :)

That's why I'm working on getting it done and tested! ;)

 

Annnnnnnnnnnndddd the controllers just got delivered!! :)

 

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17 minutes ago, Santas Helper said:

Matt, that needs to come to the OKC mini. :)

If you don't get one open by then I can probably figure it out. I always carry a BH (PC correctness) Big Hammer LOL

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1 hour ago, dibblejr said:

If you don't get one open by then I can probably figure it out. I always carry a BH (PC correctness) Big Hammer LOL

I just managed to get it open! Turns out it just "pops" open. . . . With a little help from a screw driver!

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On 1/29/2017 at 11:43 AM, caniac said:

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These are the same ones I use, I had to go to three different Wal Marts to find 16 of them. I have used them for two years and they have been great.

SPaschall

 

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2 hours ago, k6ccc said:

The only down side to using strip is that you wont be able to see the lights on the back quarter or so of the tree..  Let us all know how things work...

With spiraled mini trees, there is no back side.  :)

I made some this past season using a full ribbon on 48" tomato cages.  They're awesome.  Approximate build time: <10 minutes.

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How do you not have a back side - unless you flip the strip to the inside of the sprial

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Hate it when it sends before I'm ready....
That was supposed to continue: spiral. Otherwise the back side of the strip would be facing away from the audience.


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3 minutes ago, k6ccc said:

How do you not have a back side - unless you flip the strip to the inside of the sprial

The tree looks the same from the back as it does from the front.

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13 minutes ago, k6ccc said:

Otherwise the back side of the strip would be facing away from the audience.

The spiral mini trees look so good I don't think anyone even notices.  (Or cares,)

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