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Dcroc    85

That would be well over 200 extension cords running into the garage.  I considered that early on.  However, it would mean the cords would run under the door, and that just isn't going to work.  Would love to know how you people manage that?

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Jim Hans    49

I keep my controllers as close to their props as possible..the less extension cord length the btter!  While I agree and use most of the security tips stated above, I also use 1/4" cable to secure EVERYTHING in my yard together ending at a tree. Cable and clamps are cheap.  Since most theft is spur of the moment, grab and run type of theft (they aren't carrying bolt cutters with them) they had better have a really big truck because they are either taking it all or none!

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Steven    78
On 7/3/2016 at 3:56 PM, DisneyMatt10 said:

So, thinking about controller safety... Does anyone else keep their controllers inside, and just run extension cords to the props??

Some people do. It won't add to your security, however (see above post saying how many reports of controllers stolen (none)). It would make it easy to access and repair controllers, but they are very dependable in their enclosures, so that isn't a good reason either.

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Bizywk    61

Keeping them indoors isn't a bad idea, but it probably isn't necessary for most neighborhoods and could increase your risk to your home in a very unlikely catastrophic failure.  Early on as newbies who've seen plenty of static displays ravaged by vandalism and theft over the years, we started out putting controllers into locked storage toughboxes/footlockers chained to big stakes in the ground.  It was more trouble than it was worth for us.  We use mounting frames now for quicker access to the cords and while they're still chained to a stake, our best defense is to make sure the controllers just aren't in plain sight.    Incorporate them into your display to add camouflage and minimize cord lengths.  We have about half our controllers at the second story height (i.e. very near the faces).  The others are fastened directly onto the bulky and heavy manger scene, within the props, on the tree trunks, behind nearby bushes, etc. 

Oddly enough, Steven's observation is exactly right - even though there's a significant investment with intelligent controllers, there are few complaints of stolen controllers on the forums.   Carefully consider the hours of your show as that can be one of your best theft deterrents.   Blinky displays tend to draw more people for longer periods of time than static displays and your guests kinda serve as free "Security Guards" for you.   Happy Lighting!      

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bschwotzer    2

I secure my controllers. I use an idea that I got from Family Handyman years ago. Take a two foot piece of schedule 40 pvc pipe 3" in length with a threaded coupler end and plug. I dig two feet deep, and I drive a piece of rebar deeper into the ground.  Place schedule 40 pipe into the hole with the top level or below grade and pour concrete into the piece of pipe stopping short of the top. While the concrete is wet I sink a eye bolt with a nut and washer and leave only the eye portion visible.  The plug keeps water and dirt out of the pipe until I need a security point. I paint the top to blend through out the year. I blends and I can run my mower right over it.

here is a link   http://www.familyhandyman.com/home-security/how-to-stop-thieves#13 

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caniac    215

My losses have been minimal and none occurred until I moved to Nebraska.  This year someone stole one of my mini-tree's!!  I kid you not, a tomato cage mini-tree with two strands of lights!!  Last year someone "violated" our 9ft fuzzy Santa bear (found him bent over in the front yard), 6 months of therapy later he/she is able to smile again.

IMO our displays are not ideal for thieves in that our controllers are not hot items for a pawn shop.  Technology in them is nothing earth shattering and you pretty much have to be a LOR or xLights user to get any use out of them.  Only issues I have had with extension cords has been squirrel related and again a Nebraska thing, here dogs and cats MUST be on a leash so given that we have some very arrogant squirrels/rabbits.

 

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Derkngoogly    11

License plate cam solves it all good one cost 219.00 works amazing caught nine criminals this year stealing from my neighbors but not me i have cams everywhere. 

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caniac    215
7 minutes ago, Derkngoogly said:

License plate cam solves it all good one cost 219.00 works amazing caught nine criminals this year stealing from my neighbors but not me i have cams everywhere. 

I think when things get to that point I will just pull the plug on my show and take up knitting.

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B.Y.R.G.    86
1 hour ago, Derkngoogly said:

License plate cam solves it all good one cost 219.00 works amazing caught nine criminals this year stealing from my neighbors but not me i have cams everywhere. 

Geez sounds like a crime spree!  I'm thinking I won't be moving to Arkansas.

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George Simmons    1,154
2 hours ago, caniac said:

I think when things get to that point I will just pull the plug on my show and take up knitting.

I didn't know that bacon could be knitted.

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caniac    215
1 hour ago, George Simmons said:

I didn't know that bacon could be knitted.

why yes it can, just look at what I finished this week:

 

http://BaconBeer_zps3bpfrj0o.jpg 

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dibblejr    375
33 minutes ago, caniac said:

why yes it can, just look at what I finished this week:

 

http://BaconBeer_zps3bpfrj0o.jpg 

Awesome, heart attack (that would be my third)!

 

JR

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dibblejr    375
7 minutes ago, George Simmons said:

I was thinking the same thing...

Sounds like we've both visited CCU nurses the same number of times.

more than you can imagine, I hope. Never fun and my wife is a heart transplant coordinator. With that I don't even qualify for a transplant!

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DisneyMatt10    33
On 7/4/2016 at 10:56 AM, Dcroc said:

That would be well over 200 extension cords running into the garage.  I considered that early on.  However, it would mean the cords would run under the door, and that just isn't going to work.  Would love to know how you people manage that?

We are actually drilling a hole from the garage, through the brick to the outside of the garage. Basically like a dryer vent. That way there will be no more extension cords running under the garage door! :)

 

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dibblejr    375
29 minutes ago, DisneyMatt10 said:

We are actually drilling a hole from the garage, through the brick to the outside of the garage. Basically like a dryer vent. That way there will be no more extension cords running under the garage door! :)

 

Depending on the location of your service panel you could probably add yourself a couple outlets right outside that wall utilizing the hole to run the pvc conduit, not really that difficult and relatively affordable esp if you have space in your service box.

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caniac    215
9 hours ago, George Simmons said:

I was thinking the same thing...

Sounds like we've both visited CCU nurses the same number of times.

Heart attack, triple-bypass, and four years later a matching set of stints!! :)   CCU nurses are the greatest (as well as ER, had my heart attack in the ER and they only sent the pretty ones)!!! lol

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dibblejr    375
34 minutes ago, caniac said:

Heart attack, triple-bypass, and four years later a matching set of stints!! :)   CCU nurses are the greatest (as well as ER, had my heart attack in the ER and they only sent the pretty ones)!!! lol

My 2nd MI was also in ER during a liver failure. My wife was with me so I had one pretty nurse. However I remember the mean old not so pretty one jamming a needle in my stomach, without warning and no food or drink as they prepped my for OR. I was the youngest person on heart ward carying around "the brick". My roomy was 92 years old kept having war flashbacks. Scary!

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caniac    215
14 minutes ago, dibblejr said:

My 2nd MI was also in ER during a liver failure. My wife was with me so I had one pretty nurse. However I remember the mean old not so pretty one jamming a needle in my stomach, without warning and no food or drink as they prepped my for OR. I was the youngest person on heart ward carying around "the brick". My roomy was 92 years old kept having war flashbacks. Scary!

for the bypass I had solo quarters so that wasn't bad, for stints my roomy was mid-40's smoked heavy construction worker who got two stints also (must have been a special on pairs).

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dibblejr    375
2 hours ago, caniac said:

for the bypass I had solo quarters so that wasn't bad, for stints my roomy was mid-40's smoked heavy construction worker who got two stints also (must have been a special on pairs).

Luckily I have had no stents- even after 2. i was early 30's for first and late 30's for #2 and in the best physical shape in my life. Worked out 2x day 6 days a week at Fort Drum even in sub zero temps- go figure.

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caniac    215
1 minute ago, dibblejr said:

Luckily I have had no stents- even after 2. i was early 30's for first and late 30's for #2 and in the best physical shape in my life. Worked out 2x day 6 days a week at Fort Drum even in sub zero temps- go figure.

Matters little grasshoper!! My dad was retired Army special ops, had five heart attacks and a quadruple bypass, walked 5miles a day every day.  Ticker finally gave out on him at 68.  My heart attack and bypass was at 55.  When it's your time it's your time, just go kicking and screaming!! :) 

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dibblejr    375
10 minutes ago, caniac said:

Matters little grasshoper!! My dad was retired Army special ops, had five heart attacks and a quadruple bypass, walked 5miles a day every day.  Ticker finally gave out on him at 68.  My heart attack and bypass was at 55.  When it's your time it's your time, just go kicking and screaming!! :) 

Exactly, everyday when I wake up the first thing I do is thank god for another day, kiss my little boys and wife, then take them to school hoping I will pick them up at the end of the day. Never ending cycle.

thats my belief since I can remember , god has a plan and when my # is called then nothing anyone can do.

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George Simmons    1,154

I've been living life one day at a time since 1993.  Took a while to get used to, but reaching the point where I don't give a rip about lots of things that others get their shorts in a knot over is worth the struggle.

Two stents must be the usual dosage.  Me too.

 

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caniac    215
50 minutes ago, George Simmons said:

I've been living life one day at a time since 1993.  Took a while to get used to, but reaching the point where I don't give a rip about lots of things that others get their shorts in a knot over is worth the struggle.

Two stents must be the usual dosage.  Me too.

 

exactly!!  My fun started in 2012, so many things my dad didn't tell me about having a bypass!!!  Stints went in last August because two of the bypasses closed (not unusual, if it is gonna happen it usually happens at the four year mark.  lucky me).  Take it a day at a time and make the most of each day.

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dibblejr    375
2 hours ago, caniac said:

exactly!!  My fun started in 2012, so many things my dad didn't tell me about having a bypass!!!  Stints went in last August because two of the bypasses closed (not unusual, if it is gonna happen it usually happens at the four year mark.  lucky me).  Take it a day at a time and make the most of each day.

Our situations could actually be made into another forum. I will add you to my prayers.

JR

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