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I want to get an RGB flood to go with a CMB24 but I am unsure of how to power it.

Is the power dangle for the 12 volts power? If that is for power, how do you control it with a CMB24?

 

EDIT:

Is this any good, and could I trust it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/161501041357?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&chn=ps&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108

I will have 1 flood and three dumb ribbons that each consume a bit under 50 watts. 

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I don't know about the reliability but that power supply should work just fine, what will you install the CMB24 and PS into? Verify the voltage switch before you plug it in. I typically always have a spare for of each type of PS I use in my display, can be very disappointing when something in the display goes on early vacation and you don't have a replacement.

 

Merry Christmas

Daryl B.

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Thanks. I have a plug-in power meter, the UK equivelent of a Kill-A-Watt and I will use that to check that it is puttijg out the correct voltages and stuff.

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Thanks.

I am unsure of how you tell whether a power supply is capable of powering something with leds. Here, people talk about amperage, but RGB shops talk about Watts.

What do I need to know to work it out?

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I ran 8 RGB floods with a converted 250w computer power supply and cat 5 cable.  No problems at Halloween.

 

I had to upgrade to a 600w computer power supply for my RGB 'mega' tree.

 

You can also use a deep cycle RV/marine battery if all else fails.  Just make sure to charge it every other day or so.

 

Lastly,  There are $14 RGB floods that can be easily converted to use as 12v LOR floods!

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KYOE2Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is the flood.  Ignore what it says about only having 16 color tones, thats because the remote for it only allows 16 options.  The LOR controller will have full color control.

 

Conversion is easy, and you can see video's on you tube.  In a nutshell, you open it, peel the board out (has tape on back) cut the board inside to only have the resistors, and attach the RGB wires to the resistors, and the + line to the LED +.  Remove the little transformer inside and your good to go.  Takes about 10 min.

 

The 10w are amazingly bright.

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005KYOE2Q/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 is the flood.  Ignore what it says about only having 16 color tones, thats because the remote for it only allows 16 options.  The LOR controller will have full color control.

 

Conversion is easy, and you can see video's on you tube.  In a nutshell, you open it, peel the board out (has tape on back) cut the board inside to only have the resistors, and attach the RGB wires to the resistors, and the + line to the LED +.  Remove the little transformer inside and your good to go.  Takes about 10 min.

 

The 10w are amazingly bright.

 

 

Thanks but I was asking the OP what flood he is thinking of using.

 

I've hacked over 30 of these so I'm good.

I want to get an RGB flood to go with a CMB24 but I am unsure of how to power it.

Is the power dangle for the 12 volts power? If that is for power, how do you control it with a CMB24?

 

EDIT:

Is this any good, and could I trust it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/161501041357?limghlpsr=true&hlpv=2&ops=true&viphx=1&hlpht=true&lpid=108&chn=ps&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0-L&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=108

I will have 1 flood and three dumb ribbons that each consume a bit under 50 watts. 

 

What flood are you looking to use. Can you provide a link or a pic?

Edited by Santas Helper

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Conversion is easy, and you can see video's on you tube.  In a nutshell, you open it, peel the board out (has tape on back) cut the board inside to only have the resistors, and attach the RGB wires to the resistors, and the + line to the LED +.  Remove the little transformer inside and your good to go.  Takes about 10 min.

 

 

And just to add, there are several different configurations (internally) on these 10W RGB floods so the course of how to hack them will differ.

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This answer is for the modifiable RGB Flood lights, NOT the LoR floods.

 

*The power plug is assuming your using the remote to control the LED, the other dongle if present is for the remote sensor.

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The power plug is assuming your using the remote to control the LED, the other dongle if present is for the remote sensor.

 

You keep saying remote. What remote are you talking about?

 

The LOR floods connect to the controller.

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Ahh, I was answering on my phone, and did not see the full thread!  Now I believe that Emmien was referring to the LOR Floods.   I was referring to the amazon floods.  THEY come with a remote.

 

To correctly answer Emmien :  The dongle is 18" of wire out of the LoR Floodlight.  The 16' power cord connects to the dongle.

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This answer is for the modifiable RGB Flood lights, NOT the LoR floods.

 

*The power plug is assuming your using the remote to control the LED, the other dongle if present is for the remote sensor.

And to add, you cannot use it in it's current state (with remote) with the LOR controller. It will have to be hacked.

I say this because the use of an LOR controller is in the original question.

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Ahh, I was answering on my phone, and did not see the full thread!  Now I believe that Emmien was referring to the LOR Floods.   I was referring to the amazon floods.  THEY come with a remote.

 

To correctly answer Emmien :  The dongle is 18" of wire out of the LoR Floodlight.  The 16' power cord connects to the dongle.

I understand now. Thanks very much. I will be getting some.

:)

 

Hacking floods from Amazon doesn't seem bad. It would save a lot of money.

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Are there any flood lights that are not 12 V out there?

Just curious.

Why ask?

And welcome aboard. (noticed it's your first post).

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Are there any flood lights that are not 12 V out there? 

The majority of flood lights (Normally not LED) are 110v or 240v, depending on where you are.

These are normally just for normal light use and have ordinary bulbs.

There are some energy saving LED ones at the same voltage as well, and after a quick search I found 24v LED floods on Amazon.

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Just curious.

Why ask?

And welcome aboard. (noticed it's your first post).

 

 

This is my first year doing a LOR show ( or any lights at all)  I want to incorporate 3 flood lights and all I've seen are  12V powersupply floods that are being used.  I don't think I want to do hallogen (do I) , I would prefer LED 110v basic plug in flood lights.  Thats why I'm looking for options on flood.  Examples would be helpful.

 

All of this is completely forign to me and I have plenty of questions for the pros on this message board.  I literally recieved my 16 channel controller on December 4th.  I have a runing show with 5,000 lights and 2 purchased sequences.  I want to sequence my own shows next year but there was no time for this Xmas. 

 

I took on a new hobby with a steep learning curve in just a matter of weeks.  It's been amazingly fun and addicting.  I just purchased 4,300 more LED lights yesterday between Menards and Target. 

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I would prefer LED 110v basic plug in flood lights.

The bad thing is, the LEDs are low voltage. About 3vdc or so in general for each LED in the 10w floods.

If your looking for 110v white LED floods, your going to be dealing with some sort of step-down transformer which will cause a delay and not sure how they react to dimming/fading up or down or shimmering. Maybe you could use a color gel to make it a different color but then your stuck with that one color.

If your wanting RGB 110v, then your going to be dealing with the transformer AND circuitry for the remote because that's how they come to control the color of choice. So without hacking, you can't use that with a LOR controller.

But there is the DMX version but then you can't use the 16 channel DC controller.

What controller did you get?

Hope I didn't confuse you.

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Floods come in many varieties. But most are 12vdc.

I have a few types, dmx versions that have built in controllers, dmx DIY from holiday coro (it's an online store) and the LOR 10watt models.

By far, the easiest to use are the LOR version. Plug and play. It requires a DC controller card, I recommend the LOR version, and a 12vdc power supply. More than likely you will set this up outside so you will need a weatherproof box to put your power supply and DC card in.

The dmx version with built in controller works great. These floods will require you to set up a dmx network which will require a USB to dmx dongle (entec pro compatible from holiday coro is what I use) and a DC power supply. Since the controller is built in you don't need a controller card. And if you get a weather resistant power supply, you won't need a weatherproof box.

The DIY version works ok. These are just 5 RGB led strips you put in a shop light you get from Home Depot or harbor freight. You need a dmx dongle, a 12vdc power supply, a dmx controller card and a weatherproof box. You could plug these into the LOR DC card as well and that eliminates the need for a dmx dongle and dmx controller.

The DIY, well, after 2 seasons the led strip lights are failing. The LEDs are just going out on the strips or only 1 color goes out on one of the LEDs on the strip. Result is poor colors. This might be my fault as I put the strips on cedar planking and spike them in the ground with lawn staples instead of inside some housing. They are supposed to be ip68 but they are failing none the less.

Santas helper has hacked several RGB floods and is a great resource for this type of project. His method will get you some floods for half the lowest going price you can find. But you will still need a controller card, power supply and weatherproof box. And you will have to solder some wires and do some other DIY tasks. Going LOR controller card eliminates the need for a dmx dongle and network so keep that in mind if you go this route.

Good luck.

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If you are just starting, just get the LOR ones and a DC controller. There is little to go wrong that way, and if it does LOR will help you.

 

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JefffromPawPaw

LOR makes a 110VAC 50 Watt RGB flood that connects to your LOR system over an Ethernet cable.  It produces an incredible 48 watts when all 3 colors are on at 100%.

I added 2 this season and they light up 2 stories high with a very intense coloration.  I am very pleased with the results. Problem is they cost $150 each.  You could wait for the LOR sale or look for a DMX version, but you will then need some form of DMX controller. I have seen 50 Watt DMX RGB Floods in the neighborhood of $60 plus big shipping from China but have not pounced yet. Need to verify how waterproof they really are.

 

Jimbo (from Saranac MI)

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