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Sorry Chuck, I did not see that. Thanks a lot. Will do that now.

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Robin wrote:

Can you do them once they are outside set up? I would think the answer would be yes as each is individually numbered. The reason I ask it is a little time consuming to do each board when you have 20 or so.

Now back to my orginal question, I have four green boards and 15 blue boards. So I would need to download each type of firmware but not install? Or do I install both and when I upgrade each board then just use that one. For some reason this is just not making sense here on my end. One thing for certain is I do not use the LED lights. I just think they are way too much money for the power savings for only 30 days use. Besides I love quantity as I can buy over 1600 mini lights for the cost of some strings of LED's.


If you are not using LEDs then there really isn't a reason to upgrade firmware. You will need to select each board one at a time and update the firmware in that board. If it is a Blue Board use the blue firmware if it is a Green board use the green firmware.

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Is there any way through the hardware utility to know which model board you have (green or blue) without opening the cover and what the firmware version is?

Bill

Edit: Upon further review, I would think that by looking at the firmware version in the hardware utility that one would be able to determine the type of board.

Also for reasons I do not quite understand when I downloaded the firmware file it was saved as CTB16D_Green_V4.01.LHX.TXT. A text file, I just renamed it and it worked fine.

Bill

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I hope it is ok that I updated the Hardware Utility without the firmware.

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I would think that would be fine Robin, if not please let us know

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Robin wrote:
Can you do them once they are outside set up? I would think the answer would be yes as each is individually numbered. The reason I ask it is a little time consuming to do each board when you have 20 or so.

Now back to my orginal question, I have four green boards and 15 blue boards. So I would need to download each type of firmware but not install? Or do I install both and when I upgrade each board then just use that one. For some reason this is just not making sense here on my end. One thing for certain is I do not use the LED lights. I just think they are way too much money for the power savings for only 30 days use. Besides I love quantity as I can buy over 1600 mini lights for the cost of some strings of LED's.


If you are not using LEDs then there really isn't a reason to upgrade firmware. You will need to select each board one at a time and update the firmware in that board. If it is a Blue Board use the blue firmware if it is a Green board use the green firmware.

Is there anything on this upgrade helpful to the boards if you do not use LED's. just curious. Thanks

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Dan:



I have the LOR1602 w/built-in MP3 player.



I have NOT set up my lights. I am NOT using LEDs.



Is there anything on this upgrade that I need? Is the internal clock fixed now, where it will turn itself on/off automatically?



Thanks!



Paul

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Good Question Paul?

Is this the firmware upgrade Dan was talking about with the scheduler for the MP3 controller?

If so, do we download the DC-MP3 firmware?

If this only happens to deal with flickers and LED's the we still have to wait?

Bill Jr.

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Paul and Bill,

If you look on the LOR website under support you see the firmware that is being referred to here is for the 16D boards. I believe from reading the threads in the past, the scheduler for the MP3 player was mentioned it would be available when the next version of software is released.

I hope that this is helpful.

Chuck

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Paul, Bill, Chuck, & All about the firmware on the MP3 director card...

Dan correct this if it's wrong: the email I received on Sept 19 said "It will be available in about 4 weeks".



Basically it's any time now.

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BvrBru1 wrote:

Dan:
I have the LOR1602 w/built-in MP3 player.
I have NOT set up my lights. I am NOT using LEDs.
Is there anything on this upgrade that I need? Is the internal clock fixed now, where it will turn itself on/off automatically?
Thanks!
Paul


There is not need for you to update the firmware.

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I"m a little confused...I dont see an "about" on the hardware utility to find out what version I"m at with the hardware utility. I see the new version is 1.5.6. When I run this it updates installed files so that after the update my hardware utility is upgraded (even though it looks the same?)????

Also, I get this Found when I do a search for boards in the hardware utility.

01 - CTB16D ver 3.0

So, I guess I have version 3.0 of the firmware on my new 16ch board.

What is the new version that is out there..I cant find that anywhere. Do I need to upgrade.

BTW, I got my kit put together tonight and its flashing away (only tried one channel so far as I only wire half the board and only had on socket to wire in to plug in to). Getting a sequence to run is a little cumbersome having to schedule the sequence and all that (no manual mode). I'll reserve judgement on this until I use it more as it might just be the most logical way to do it (in the big picture of things).

I guess I can go ahead and put on my big heatsinks now as it seems to be working.

GREAT KIT Dan!!! You guys really have it together. If you could have sent me a set of pre 42 yr old eyes is the only thing that would have made it easier....LOL


UPDATE: I loaded the firmware posted and now it shows as

01 - CTB16D ver 4.01

So, I guess my new kit (recieved 2 days ago) did require the upgrade. Happy and up to date!!!!

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I don't have the kit (Showtime boxes here) but here are a couple things I saw after upgrading.

If you have installed the hardware controller correctly now you will see the version number in the header line after the words " Lite-O-Rama". I saw (1.5.6)

See Dan's comments above for who needs to upgrade.

You can test the sequence easily in the sequence editor as you work on it, by making sure that the control lights option is selected in the play pull down menu

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jmccorm wrote:

OH MY GOD THIS SOLVES MOST OF MY PROBLEMS!!!

Wonderful! Can you tell I'm really happy about this? Some of my channels (varied from song to song) had a really annoying flicker near low voltages. Totally fixed that problem! Awesome!

Remaining LED question...

Near low voltages, there is now only some very slight flicker that I can live with. Is this the expected nature of LEDs and SSRs at low voltage? Depending on the brand and color of LED, I see it at 2-20%. All lights on the same LOR seem to flicker in the exact same way.

I just wanted to see if you were aware of this pre and post firmware issue?

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OK, I can get the lights to work in the hardware utility and I can get my show to run in the show controller software but when I play my sequence in the sequence editor with "control lights" checked, it does NOT control my lights. So, I have shows enabled..is that the problem? (the hardware editor is closed also)

Can someone clue me in???


ALSO, I do see the version number in the title (maybe it was there all along???)

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OK, I can get the lights to work in the hardware utility and I can get my show to run in the show controller software but when I play my sequence in the sequence editor with "control lights" checked, it does NOT control my lights. So, I have shows enabled..is that the problem? (the hardware editor is closed also)

Can someone clue me in???


ALSO, I do see the version number in the title (maybe it was there all along???)


Shows enabled + Sequence Editor "Control Lights" checked = Two items trying to occupy the same space.

Try to disable shows and see what happens.

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kb9nvh wrote:

OK, I can get the lights to work in the hardware utility and I can get my show to run in the show controller software but when I play my sequence in the sequence editor with "control lights" checked, it does NOT control my lights. So, I have shows enabled..is that the problem? (the hardware editor is closed also)

Can someone clue me in???


ALSO, I do see the version number in the title (maybe it was there all along???)
Yes, if you have shows enabled, then it will not control the lights from the sequence editor. You will have to disable shows.

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I'm trying to update the firmware via the wireless light linker. Anyone try that successfully?

How long is the firmware update supposed to take.

Mine seems to be taking awfully long. Roughly 15 minutes in. Status reports Starting Load

Activity: Grabbing Unit

Update Progress: doesn't look like it's even started progressing.

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Frimware updates always run at 19,200... So if your ELLs are running at 57,600 (which is normal) then frimware updates will not work. When you update the firmware on an ELL, the ELL is temporally set to 19,200 for the duration of the firmware update then set back to the original speed.. You do not see this happening.

When it comes to updating firmware I recommend that you have the units directly connected. However if you are running your ELL network at 19,2 then you can update firmware via the ELLs.

As far as how long a download takes, it should start within 5 seconds and take about 30 seconds to complete.

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Thanks for the info.

I was able to update another board and did see how fast it happened. I'll try manually changing the baud rate and see if that helps. As an FYI, I was unable to update the firmware via the ELL's at this point. But will try again.

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Daniel wrote:

So What is exactly the purpose of the new firmware? Chuck has said "No led flicker when fading". Anything else you can tell us? Just like logan said, 'Do we even NEED to upgrade the firmware?"

I heard LED's flicker with that Digital Light show do dad walmarts sold a couple years ago... and even some DMX controllers or other competitors... One suggested problem and solution is the LED's have some capacitence or something of that nature and something simple like adding a 1 bulb C7 or night light to draw down the capacitence can get rid of the flicker in dimming.

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mcascio wrote:

Thanks for the info.

I was able to update another board and did see how fast it happened. I'll try manually changing the baud rate and see if that helps. As an FYI, I was unable to update the firmware via the ELL's at this point. But will try again.

Hi... If you set the ELLs to 19.200 ( you have to set each of them individually)... then you should be able to use them to perform firmware updates on the controllers. Make sure that you have the latest Hardware Utilty 1.5.7 ( on the LOR support page ).

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Joseph Ayo wrote:

Daniel wrote:
So What is exactly the purpose of the new firmware? Chuck has said "No led flicker when fading". Anything else you can tell us? Just like logan said, 'Do we even NEED to upgrade the firmware?"

I heard LED's flicker with that Digital Light show do dad walmarts sold a couple years ago... and even some DMX controllers or other competitors... One suggested problem and solution is the LED's have some capacitence or something of that nature and something simple like adding a 1 bulb C7 or night light to draw down the capacitence can get rid of the flicker in dimming.

With LOR there is no need to add any loads or such to get the LEDs to fade smoothly. Make sure you have the latest firmware... The resolution of a slight flicker in the fade for LEDs was addressed in the last firmware release.

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this whole thing confused me, i have 4- CTB16D ver 4.01 showtime, i got them back in june. i m using LEDs in my display. some of them is flicking when they are fading. will the firmware on the website fix that or am i missing something on here. also would a 1 watt resistor put on the end of the leds fix that if the firmware doesnt fix that . one of my led tree with 10 strings pull about 0.4 amp

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