ChristmasDude Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Could someone tell me how these arches work?It seems they have multiple modes, but the modes don't seem random to me, seems they are being controlled. I'm confused here.Thank you to anyone who responds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray Augsburg Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 I'm just a newbie here, myself. But it seems to me as if the arches are simply straightforward 8-section arches. Eight sections of mini lights on each arch. Each section controlled by a single channel. The rest is in the sequencing.Hope this helps!Cray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasDude Posted September 19, 2009 Author Share Posted September 19, 2009 Thanks for the replay Cray, I appreciate it. So, you're thinking that each section, eight per arch, has like 10-20 mini-lights wrapped around it? ...Just want to make sure I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray Augsburg Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 Most arches that I have seen using mini lights are wrapped with 100-200 lights per section. The arch itself is of 3/4-inch or 1-inch PVC. Some leave a little unwrapped on the ends so the lights are off the ground.Thing is, at 8 (or so) channels per arch, and I have only 32 channels (for now), I haven't felt like I could work them into my display for this (my first) year. Oh well . . .:?Check out the arches here (goto the videos). Then on the same site is a little video tutorial of how he made them:http://www.holdman.com/christmasCray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBullard Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 ChristmasDude wrote: Thanks for the replay Cray, I appreciate it. So, you're thinking that each section, eight per arch, has like 10-20 mini-lights wrapped around it? ...Just want to make sure I understand.Not quite.Typically the way most of us build our arches, each section may be a 100 count sting of mini's wrapped around PVC pipe. So, an 8 section arch may contain 800 lights total, but each section is a 100 count string. An 8 "section" arch would use 8 LOR channels per arch.I use 7 "sections" of 100 ct LEDs per arch myself, 4 arches, or 28 LOR channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Mitchell Posted September 19, 2009 Share Posted September 19, 2009 The link is for a sequence that shows some examples of arch programming in LOR.http://lightoramasequences.com/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,42/func,fileinfo/id,167/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasDude Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 Thank you everyone for the information and links.Concerning the PVC pipe, would the below suffice?http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Plumbing-Pipe-Fittings-PVC-Pipe-Fittings/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhcZbbi7/R-100348472/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053Also, while I have no experience with this type of decoration, it appears in the videos that even though the pipe is straight, it is flexible enough to bend into an arch, is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBullard Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 That pipe could be used, but most of us use the grey PVC electical conduit. It bends a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasDude Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 Would this be what you are referring to JB?http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhc/R-100404046/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBullard Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasDude Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 So if I use the entire 10 ft for one arch, which is a large arch, how do I mount the arch on my grass?Also, can you cut the pipe to make a shorter arch? What tool can it be cut with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBullard Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I use 2 foot pieces of 1/2" rebar at an approx 60 degree angle in the ground to slip the ends of the pipe over.Almost anything will cut PVC plastic pipe, such as a hacksaw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasDude Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 Thanks JB. To confirm, this is the rebar (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhc/R-100318442/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053)?It seems pretty long to have to hammer into my grass, what can you cut this with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBullard Posted September 20, 2009 Share Posted September 20, 2009 I buy 8 ft lengths and cut it into 2 foot long pieces. About 1 foot into the ground, approx 1 foot out of the ground to slip rhe ends of the PVC pipe overI use a bandsaw to cut it, but a hacksaw will work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasDude Posted September 20, 2009 Author Share Posted September 20, 2009 ahhh..ok right I see, you would need to leave a significant amount exposed to secure the PVC pipe to and leave a good amount under the grass to secure the rebar. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cray Augsburg Posted September 21, 2009 Share Posted September 21, 2009 Not only that . . .. . . since the PVC is hollow, you can just stick it right over the rebar sticking out of the ground! How 'bout them apples?Cray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javerill Posted September 22, 2009 Share Posted September 22, 2009 ChristmasDude wrote: Thank you everyone for the information and links.Concerning the PVC pipe, would the below suffice?http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Plumbing-Pipe-Fittings-PVC-Pipe-Fittings/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhcZbbi7/R-100348472/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053Also, while I have no experience with this type of decoration, it appears in the videos that even though the pipe is straight, it is flexible enough to bend into an arch, is this correct?I have used this type for my arches for years and have had no problems. I only put 100 lights of 3 different colors on them but they have held up nice.As for how to put them in the ground, I found this idea somewhere either here or an planetchristmas.Jim Attached files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChristmasDude Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share Posted September 26, 2009 Thanks Jim. Any idea what the those three parts are called? Looks like a part in the middle and then two separate parts on left and right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javerill Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 well I am not really sure what they are called but I found them right away and menards. 1 is a four way (But you could use only a three way and on the left and right side is simply a 90 degree piece that one end fits into the original four way. then you put a piece of pvs for the post on the remaining side.How does that sound for a technical way of doing it? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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