24 x 100 Mega Tree with an 8 row Globe Topper Upgrading to S5

[MSB]

I have all of the sequences from s4 converted to s5 for the show this year.  None of the imported sequences included the Mega Tree sequences as I did all of those using Superstar and exported as intensity files and imported them into a "merged" sequence.  I did not try importing any of the merged sequences. Looking at S5, I thought I would try recreating the preview definition in S5 and then using the insert motion effects from superstar to get the sequences in cleaner. I'm just having a problem creating the preview. It's basically a 360 degree tree 24 x 100 Tree with an 8 row globe tree topper. In the old visualizer I stacked 2-24 columns of 50 pixel CCRS with channel 1 on the bottoms of each stack.  So the MT-Tree Top has 24 columns, and MT-Tree Bot has 24 columns. The column numbers are identical. I use 3 pixicon 16 controllers to control the 48 ribbons. and two legacy controllers to control the tree topper. This is the channel config:

Fixture	Frame	Amps	Total Lights		Conroller ID	DMX ID	Channel	Circuits
01 Top Sphere CCP			50	Aux-A	Unit 01		Com 4	1-50
02 TopMid Sphere CCP			50	Aux-A	Unit 02		Com 4	1-50
03 BotMid Sphere CCP			50	Aux-A	Unit 03		Com 4	1-50
04 Bot Sphere CCP			50	Aux-A	Unit 04		Com 4	1-50
MT1 Top Ribbon 01			150	Aux-B	Unit 05		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 02			150	Aux-B	Unit 06		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 03			150	Aux-B	Unit 07		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 04			150	Aux-B	Unit 08		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 05			150	Aux-B	Unit 09		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 06			150	Aux-B	Unit 0A		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 07			150	Aux-B	Unit 0B		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 08			150	Aux-B	Unit 0C		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 09			150	Aux-B	Unit 0D		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 10			150	Aux-B	Unit 0E		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 11			150	Aux-B	Unit 0F		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 12			150	Aux-B	Unit 10		Com 5	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 13			150	Aux-C	Unit 11		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 14			150	Aux-C	Unit 12		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 15			150	Aux-C	Unit 13		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 16			150	Aux-C	Unit 14		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 17			150	Aux-C	Unit 15		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 18			150	Aux-C	Unit 16		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 19			150	Aux-C	Unit 17		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 20			150	Aux-C	Unit 18		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 21			150	Aux-C	Unit 19		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 22			150	Aux-C	Unit 1A		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 23			150	Aux-C	Unit 1B		Com 6	1-150
MT1 Top Ribbon 24			150	Aux-C	Unit 1C		Com 6	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 01			150	Aux-D	Unit 1D		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 02			150	Aux-D	Unit 1E		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 03			150	Aux-D	Unit 1F		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 04			150	Aux-D	Unit 20		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 05			150	Aux-D	Unit 21		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 06			150	Aux-D	Unit 22		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 07			150	Aux-D	Unit 23		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 08			150	Aux-D	Unit 24		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 09			150	Aux-D	Unit 25		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 10			150	Aux-D	Unit 26		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 11			150	Aux-D	Unit 27		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 12			150	Aux-D	Unit 28		Com 7	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 13			150	Aux-E	Unit 29		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 14			150	Aux-E	Unit 2A		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 15			150	Aux-E	Unit 2B		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 16			150	Aux-E	Unit 2C		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 17			150	Aux-E	Unit 2D		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 18			150	Aux-E	Unit 2E		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 19			150	Aux-E	Unit 2F		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 20			150	Aux-E	Unit 30		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 21			150	Aux-E	Unit 31		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 22			150	Aux-E	Unit 32		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 23			150	Aux-E	Unit 33		Com 8	1-150
MT2 Bot Ribbon 24			150	Aux-E	Unit 34		Com 8	1-150

 

I imported the Superstar Prop 24 x 50  with 8 row globe into a separate preview. I modified Globe Back to use Aux A with ID's 1-4. All good.  I modified 24 x 50 Tree Back and set column 1 unit ID from reg to Aux B and the first ribbon Unit ID to 5.  The prop definition changed all of the unit ID's accordingly and  matches the above for the 1st 24 ribbons. However, I 'm unable to change the Network on Ribbon 13 from Aux B to Aux C. I also don't know how to add the bottom  24 ribbons and looking for help.

Greg 

[BrianBruderer]

In S4 did you stretch the sequences to be 100 pixels on the tree?

[MSB]

No I typoed the topic and can't change it. The channel configuration is correct. 150 channels per new version CCR stacked on top of each other for 300 total per column.

[BrianBruderer]

I did the following:

Went into Preview design

Clicked "Add Item"

Selected "Tree 360 Wedges"

Actual # of Strings: 24

Exact # of RGB Nodes Per String: 50

# of Folds in each String: 0

Truncate Cone %:  50

For the channels, select "Enter a channel on every row" then you should be able to assign the Network for each row however you want.

I named the prop "24x50 bottom"

After adding the prop I did the same thing and added a prop named "24x50" top" I used the same parameters except I set "Truncate Cone%" to 0

I made a group named "tree" and put the two props in it and selected "vertical stack" for the arrangement.

When I went into superstar the grid appeared with the two trees on top of each other.

You should be able to do the same thing except add the globe to the group and it should appear above the tree.

[MSB]

I must be doing something wrong. I built the preview but the bottom 24 columns are on the top, the ball is in the middle, and the 24 top columns are on the bottom. How do I change the order in the vertical stack? Also, what are the dummy rows for in the pre-made prop for a 24 channel 360 tree with globe?

Edited September 23, 2020 by MSB

[BrianBruderer]

You should have a group that contains all the props in the tree. In Preview design, double click on the group and select the items you want in the group. To change the order, highlight an item and use the up/down arrows to move the highlighted item.

In the standard tree with globe prop that my sequences are made for, there are 5 dummy rows at the top and 5 dummy rows at the bottom. If you use my sequences and do not have the dummy rows then you will need to use the "move or scale selected effects" feature to move the sequencing down 5 rows.

[MSB]

OK, I think I may have the preview correct. In the sequencing grid it have the motion effect row for the mega tree and globe.

I select the row and right click insert superstar effect. A warning pops up, "One or more groups in the Preview are 360 degree props. Import in wrap around mode. 

I choose Yes

Superstar does not open up and I get the message No Data Received from Superstar OK

[MSB]

Figured it out! Thanks Brian!!

[BrianBruderer]

Good!

 

[sysco]

TELL us what steps you took in figuring it out  have been following thread thank you

[MSB]

14 minutes ago, sysco said:

TELL us what steps you took in figuring it out  have been following thread thank you

I'm away from my pc camping at the moment but I will try from memory. I didn't exactly do Brian's steps.

I created a new preview and started with the 24 column tree with 8 row globe. Renamed to MT1 Globe and MT1 TOP. I added a new 360 wedge tree called MT1 BOT doing the truncation at 50%. Aligned all 3 props in the center and gradually moved the tilt to line up with the imported tree. I was able to reassign all the channels and networks (most time consuming part) to match our channel config. Sorry S4 jargon. 

I left the dummy rows in because I also used the same amount of top and bottom blank rows in my S4 visualizer. Also in my case I used the same CCW setup but my starting column 1 is on the left so I changed all 3 sections accordingly.

My mistake was in creating the group and the motion control row. I did not have the vertical stack arranged from bottom to top. I had it arranged from the top down. Too logical I guess.

I created a group called MT1 Tree and Globe. I put the  MT1 Dummy Bot on top. Next MT1 Bot, Next MT1 Top, Next MT1 Globe, then MT1  Dummy Top.

Last I exported the preview as Stage 03 MT1 2020. And then imported this stage into my master preview.

I opened a sequence from last year. Saved it for this year. Navigated to my motion control row for MT1 Tree and Globe. Selected the entire row and right clicked to insert superstar effect. 

Superstar opened up and I opened the mega tree superstar sequence for this song from last year. And closed superstar. The entire mega tree sequence came in and played perfectly in my master preview. Without further modification.

Whew, I hope I didn't miss anything. But my beer is getting warm now. Let me know if that helped!

Greg

[sysco]

Greg thank you for your reply and yes it is helpful to know the end result