aesl1982 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'm seeing a bunch of v1 gen 1 controllers for sale. Will these work with s3 and s4 if I'm not on high speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'm seeing a bunch of v1 gen 1 controllers for sale. Will these work with s3 and s4 if I'm not on high speedYes. The controllers will work with S3/S4. As you noted they can not be used for high speed networks. If you have a high speed network you would need to place the g1/g2 controllers on a new network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesl1982 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Ok awesome that's what I thought just wanted to confirm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesl1982 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 Also heard that the v1 controllers may need snubbers for the LEDs. But the v4 ones do not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Correct that G1 and G2 controllers may need snubbers for LED circuits and generally G3 will not. Also note that you can't run V1 and V2 controllers on enhanced networks (regardless of speed). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdipaola73 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Correct above. I have 7 G1 controllers purchased from 2 different members here and they are still going strong. I didn't have to use snubbers. Lights were all from HLE if that makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesl1982 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 Basically if you have full wave no snubbers needed most likely. It big box stores may need snubber. Is a snubber as simple as a glade plug in, plugged into lights somewhere. I guess I could put a glade plug in on the dot cord just add a plug somewhere on cord ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesl1982 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ok how about this. If I have a updated G3-MP3 director. Will it xo troll the older controllers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesl1982 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Wanting to purchase the director but need to know if everything will work together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Ok how about this. If I have a updated G3-MP3 director. Will it xo troll the older controllers Wanting to purchase the director but need to know if everything will work together Yes, the G3 director will control older controllers, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesl1982 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 Awesome. Thanks Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sanch Mafia Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 quick question to add here regarding high speed connection. ive been running Gen 3/4 controllers with a Cat5 cable connecting to each one. Will mixing in Gen 1 be an issue? I guess im not really sure what high speed connection is being referred to? Sorry if its a lame question, rather ask it tho. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Gen 1 controllers won't do Enhanced protocol or 500k speed. And what are you calling a Gen 4 controller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmmienLightFan Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) If you link them all together, you can only use slower speeds. And what are you calling a Gen 4 controller?I thought you were a Gold Member. Gen4 controllers were released to us in the summer sale. I'm sorry. I just had to. Edited August 24, 2015 by EmmienLightFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sanch Mafia Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 If you link them all together, you can only use slower speeds. so whats the resolution here or actually recommendation? if i link them all together will i see lagging/delay? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sanch Mafia Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 so whats the resolution here or actually recommendation? if i link them all together will i see lagging/delay? Thanksor do i create a new network just gor the Gen1 controllers? would this mean i new a second RS485? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) If you want the faster speed for the controllers that can handle it, yes two networks. I do that for my year-round landscape lighting. Regular network:57k non-enhanced2 x Input Pups2 x 16 channel old AC controllers1 x 8 channel old AC controller AuxA network:115k enhanced3 x 16 channel DC controllers AuxB network (Christmas only):500k enhanced3 x 100 pixel CCPs Edited to improve formatting (I hope). Does not come out right from Tapatalk... Edited August 25, 2015 by k6ccc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sanch Mafia Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 i mean how much of a difference will i see in speeds comparing Gen 1 to Gen 3? ive used (4)Gen 3 for the past 2 years and i was given a (3) Gen 1. this would be the first year adding the Gen 1. if i cant run Gen 1 at the same speeds, then is it recommend to put them on their network? i know they cant run at the same speed but what am i looking as an end result? Gen 1 controlled strings slower than Gen 3?..... Just trying to come up with a resolution so come show time, i don't only have half the show performing? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Seven 16 channel controllers is only 112 channels. You would have a very hard time congesting a network at a slower speed. Put them all on one network at either 115 or 57k and you should be fine. One other thing is that the Gen 1 controllers can't be used on an enhanced protocol network. That means you can't use the new Pixel Editor, and if you use SuperStar, you must export in legacy mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Sanch Mafia Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 (edited) Seven 16 channel controllers is only 112 channels. You would have a very hard time congesting a network at a slower speed. Put them all on one network at either 115 or 57k and you should be fine. One other thing is that the Gen 1 controllers can't be used on an enhanced protocol network. That means you can't use the new Pixel Editor, and if you use SuperStar, you must export in legacy mode.Jim, thanks for the help and feedback. I just discovered Pixel editor, too late in the yr for me so wont have that issue with the Gen 1 controllers. looks like i might sell some off next year. I will look into putting them all into a 115k network. Thanks Edited August 25, 2015 by Big Sanch Mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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