Vince LeGrand Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Since the LOR controllers are only intended to power lights, I have used X10 controllers for the past 7 years to control my inflatables. The X10 stuff has worked fine, but I need wireless X10 control. Since the LOR software only supports the CM11A, I have to use other software to control a CM17A. It would make things less complicated if I could dump the X10 stuff and just use the LOR controllers to control the inflatables. I have seen some posts in the forum about using the LOR controllers to energize relays which would then power on the inflatables. I am assuming that a LOR controller circuit is used to energize the input contacts of a relay which then supplies power to the inflatable. I usually see relays with a low voltage input circuit to control a high voltage circuit. Are there relays that use 120 volt input circuits to control 120 volt circuits? Can anyone who is using relays for inflatables (or other 120 volt motorized fixtures) tell me what relays they are using? Thanks.
plasmadrive Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Google 120vac relay. there are thousands.. If you have an electronics store near you they should have several to chose from. Make sure you get one with contacts rated for "inductive" and more than the amps you need for the blowup
TitusCarnathan Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 A good example would be one like this http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Relays_-z-_Timers/Electro-Mechanical_Relays/Square_-z-_Cube_Relays,_Plug-In,_3A_-_15A_(78x-z-_Qxx-z-H78x_Series)/General_Purpose,_15A_(781_-z-_782_-z-_783_-z-_784_Series)/782-2C-120A And its socket. http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Relays_-z-_Timers/Relay_Sockets_-a-_Accessories/Relay_Sockets/782-2C-SKT But generally any 120 volt relay would work, Just look for one that has a 120 volt coil
Ken Benedict Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 $14 and free shipping: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-40-amp-2-pole-120v-coil-Definite-Purpose-Contactor-Relay-/261319817496?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd7dff918
Vince LeGrand Posted November 27, 2013 Author Posted November 27, 2013 Thanks for all the great responses.
Mike_Schulz Posted December 8, 2013 Posted December 8, 2013 Has the relay worked for you Vince. I need to install one for a snow machine.
Vince LeGrand Posted December 8, 2013 Author Posted December 8, 2013 Mike, I haven't done anything with relays for this year. Everything is already set up outside....much too late to make a drastic change like starting to use relays. My question was more for planning for next year.
habmann Posted December 9, 2013 Posted December 9, 2013 I just put a relay in this weekend to handle my inflatables. Simple 120V AC coil single pole double throw relay in a small watertight enclosure, add some SPT wire and plugs and we're good to go. The inflatables only run during my preshow but I'm happy I was able to get them incorporated.
Jim Hans Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 The links are great for the electrically challenged like me.......but..... Can someone take a step further with a "how to" to hook it up. The relays show just blades? What do I hook up to where and how?
Ken Benedict Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 The links are great for the electrically challenged like me.......but..... Can someone take a step further with a "how to" to hook it up. The relays show just blades? What do I hook up to where and how? Try here: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ac+relay+wiring&sm=1
Wayne K Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 We use a lot of these at work and they seem pretty reliable. There called RIB (relay in a box). The nice thing about these are they do not have a socket base to worry about keeping isolated. They have about 16"-18" of leads hanging out and don't have to be mounted to anything. They are low voltage control (10 to 30 volt) or high voltage control (120 volt), You cap off which ever line you don't use.There switching lines are 10 amp normally open or normally closed depending upon which wires you select to use in your setup, also on these leads you cap off the one you do not use. They are not water or weather proof. Depending upon where you would mount it or use it, it would need to be in a protective enclosure for outside. We get them from a supplier here called Johnstone supply. Do a search on relay in a box or this number RIBU1C. I don't know if this helps or not, but this was my first thought when I read this post.For some reason I cannot paste any links. Wayne
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