CLD Kevin Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 bretk wrote:I had a similar issue with the usb485. I just got tired of trying to figure it out and got an enttec. No probs scince. :cool:I was hoping that wasn't the case. Each Enttec is only 1 universe (512chs) correct? Well $60 is better than $250 (iDMX). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heystew Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 For whatever reason the usb485 has just worked for me (i'm using the booster version). I seem to remember someone mentioned maybe problems with an old version of the FTDI driver?another thing you could try is connecting the ground line.. although I've never had a problem not doing so.and yes each Enttec is 1 universe. Ran 12 of them this year with no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLD Kevin Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 heystew wrote:For whatever reason the usb485 has just worked for me (i'm using the booster version). I seem to remember someone mentioned maybe problems with an old version of the FTDI driver?another thing you could try is connecting the ground line.. although I've never had a problem not doing so.and yes each Enttec is 1 universe. Ran 12 of them this year with no issue.FTDI driver sounds like a good idea. My driver is 2.8.2. The current verion is 2.8.14. Wont hurt to try. I'll check it out tomorrow.Release notes for the different versons: http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/CDM/CDM%202%2008%2014%20Release%20Info.rtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffl Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Did you by chance try this. If you did please forgive me.PC -> USB485B -> plain cat5 cable -> ctb16pc or 1602WSetting the USB485B as a DMX raw device and removing it as a LOR network.I have not had much luck with the USB485B doing DMX. My results were scrambled as well. I have had good results with and Enttec Pro and Lynx USB dongle but I was testing on Lynx Express controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamS Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Double check the LOR setting for networks. Best thing is to remove all adapters from the setup so the computer has none, reinstall 1 of them so you know there is only 1 set of addresses and then use the Sequencer network setting for the DMX/Lor adapter. Dont forget output in Raw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flogger7 Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Cracker wrote:I don’t know what the heck I’m doing wrong, but I’ve read several post over and over to make sure I was doing this right. Trying to run USB485B adapter in DMX raw and all that is happening is the lights are going crazy. Here is how I’m connecting...I connected the 485B to the PC and is recognized on Comm3. I opened the Sequence Editor and changed the network preference so the adapter connected is on DMX universe 1, Raw DMX and changed the LOR network Regular to None. Closed Sequence Editor so it takes affect and reopened.I then connected RJ45 pins 4 & 5 out of the 485B to pins 2 & 3 of the DMX device. (4 to 3 and 5 to 2).Next I opened the Control Panel. The CommListener shows Listening on port 8837, Connection accepted (352), A8007Lzf Adapter opened and Connection accepted (628). So far everything looks good. I verified the “Control Lights” is checked under the Play button.I opened up a sequence and made sure that the RGB channel I was testing is set to DMX Universe 1, channels 1-3. The DMX device is also set to 1-3. But when I play a sequence, the lights go crazy. Just flashing on and off. Tried reversing the pins, same result.To verify nothing wrong with the adapter or the DMX device, I connected using an iDMX...works perfect first try.WHAT AM I MISSING??What happens if you set the channel config (in the sequence, don't change the device) to channels 2,3,4? I have to +1 offset all my channels when using the usb485 dongle for raw dmx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Cherry Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Are you sure about the RJ-45 connection pins? It is normally pins 1 & 2 for DMX devices and not pins 2 & 3. Please verify.flogger7 wrote: Cracker wrote:I don’t know what the heck I’m doing wrong, but I’ve read several post over and over to make sure I was doing this right. Trying to run USB485B adapter in DMX raw and all that is happening is the lights are going crazy. Here is how I’m connecting...I connected the 485B to the PC and is recognized on Comm3. I opened the Sequence Editor and changed the network preference so the adapter connected is on DMX universe 1, Raw DMX and changed the LOR network Regular to None. Closed Sequence Editor so it takes affect and reopened.I then connected RJ45 pins 4 & 5 out of the 485B to pins 2 & 3 of the DMX device. (4 to 3 and 5 to 2).Next I opened the Control Panel. The CommListener shows Listening on port 8837, Connection accepted (352), A8007Lzf Adapter opened and Connection accepted (628). So far everything looks good. I verified the “Control Lights” is checked under the Play button.I opened up a sequence and made sure that the RGB channel I was testing is set to DMX Universe 1, channels 1-3. The DMX device is also set to 1-3. But when I play a sequence, the lights go crazy. Just flashing on and off. Tried reversing the pins, same result.To verify nothing wrong with the adapter or the DMX device, I connected using an iDMX...works perfect first try.WHAT AM I MISSING??What happens if you set the channel config (in the sequence, don't change the device) to channels 2,3,4? I have to +1 offset all my channels when using the usb485 dongle for raw dmx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitePlainsNY Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I tested my USB485 connected to a HolidayCoro DMX controller after swapping pins 4/5 to 1/2 on the CAT5 connecter using S3 and it worked fine for testing the RGB lights. The one issue I came across that someone is also going to encounter is that Windows 7 Firewall had to be set to allow the LOCComListener program to go through the firewall.Baby steps for me but I'm getting my feet wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preston Meyer Posted January 30, 2012 Share Posted January 30, 2012 Running DMX and LOR networks with two USB485B's. Made up a RJ 45 to 3 pin XLR cable. Set up one for DMX per instructions with only that one connected to computer. Then connected 2nd 485 for LOR system.Both networks work fine. LOR has 2 CTB 16 PC's and a Color Ribbon. DMX has RGB flood, commercial 4 pak dimmer, and strobe. No problems with addressing or sequencing errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightORamaDan Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Not sure how old your USB485Bs are but when we made our USB adapters we did not always purchase comm chips that supported DMX speed. This is because the "slower" chips are slower because they make the connection more reliable and less susceptible to interference, noise, need for terminators, etc...The adapters we sell now all will support DMX as their chips are specified to run at speeds up to 250k which DMX speed.Other than this issue I do not know of a reason why you would not be able to run DMX via the USB adapters. They are "dumb" interfaces so if the PC they are running on is too slow you will have issues which will be had with any "dumb" adapter.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamS Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 LightORamaDan wrote: Not sure how old your USB485Bs are but when we made our USB adapters we did not always purchase comm chips that supported DMX speed. This is because the "slower" chips are slower because they make the connection more reliable and less susceptible to interference, noise, need for terminators, etc...The adapters we sell now all will support DMX as their chips are specified to run at speeds up to 250k which DMX speed.Other than this issue I do not know of a reason why you would not be able to run DMX via the USB adapters. They are "dumb" interfaces so if the PC they are running on is too slow you will have issues which will be had with any "dumb" adapter.DanIs there a way to know which ones we have? I plan on using mine to run at least 1 network unless 1.31 protocol is adapted. I hear rumors of a beta running it as we speak. I would be on board with that as soon as its ready for D-load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffl Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 I have one that is about 5 and one about 3 years old. If there are chips marking we could look I'd like to look to see what I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymac Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Cracker wrote:bretk wrote:I had a similar issue with the usb485. I just got tired of trying to figure it out and got an enttec. No probs scince. :cool:I was hoping that wasn't the case. Each Enttec is only 1 universe (512chs) correct? Well $60 is better than $250 (iDMX).Later this year when (if) LOR supports E131, the one universe issue will be less of an issue. Example EthConGateway will give you 4 univers's over ethernet etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffl Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 jerrymac wrote:Later this year when (if) LOR supports E131, the one universe issue will be less of an issue. Example EthConGateway will give you 4 univers's over ethernet etc.I'm happy in knowing that I can run this year with the DMX capabilities that are out now. I know the Enttec Pro and Lynx adapters work so I have choices and that's all I need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightORamaDan Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 As far as checking a USB485 to check what chips it has, I do not recommend it for the regular USB485 as it could get damaged while taking it apart. The USB485B is not as likely to get damages.I will have someone go back and see if we can find the part numbers that would be on the chips.As far as E1.31 that will happen this year... Ran a little late for it last year but the native DMX support is there now and that was a big chuck of the work. The E1.31 support has been coded and what remains is testing it and some additional code for configuration interface changes.Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geronc Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 LightORamaDan wrote:As far as E1.31 that will happen this year... Ran a little late for it last year but the native DMX support is there now and that was a big chuck of the work. The E1.31 support has been coded and what remains is testing it and some additional code for configuration interface changes.DanYet again, awesome to hear this news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekbackus Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Don't know if this applies to other DIY controllers... I just crossed pins 4&5 and DMX out from LOR works great with the Renard64.Derek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardh Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 LightORamaDan wrote: As far as checking a USB485 to check what chips it has, I do not recommend it for the regular USB485 as it could get damaged while taking it apart. The USB485B is not as likely to get damages.I will have someone go back and see if we can find the part numbers that would be on the chips.As far as E1.31 that will happen this year... Ran a little late for it last year but the native DMX support is there now and that was a big chuck of the work. The E1.31 support has been coded and what remains is testing it and some additional code for configuration interface changes.DanAny luck of finding out what part number is on the old USB485B? I have two units that I bought over 5 years ago and I am having some DMX issues with them.. I would hate to buy some new ones and find out they might now work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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