George Simmons Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 I see others (as well as myself) having “A-hah” moments frequently, when learning new software commands, or a time-saving tip, or a slick new sequencing technique. And I also see newbies frequently wandering in a daze, carrying their mostly-empty minds in brown paper bags at their sides as they search for clean-smelling repositories of tips and tricks they can use to enhance their blossoming skills as sequencers. Of course, I mean that in the nicest possible way.So stop me if this has been tried before, but how about if we do a thread with sequencing tips? This might be a good time of year to try it since about the only people who are skulking around are newbies who are actually trying to learn how to sequence, and those of us who spend a pathologic amount of time enslaved by this pervasive disease. So since I opened my big mouth, I’ll go first. The biggest time-saving things that have helped me personally are the Beat Wizard, learning the most common keyboard commands, and discovering paste multiple and the Repeat tool.I’ve said it before and I’ll probably say it again: I believe that newbies who learn the Beat Wizard are automatically putting themselves on the fast track to fame and glory. Hey, if you’re a music major or an old-timer who learned this craft back in the cave days when all you had was the Tapper, that’s great – go enjoy your poached eggs – you’ve earned them. But if you’re like me and don’t know the difference between a cleft, a downbeat, or a stanza (and have the reflexes of either a girl or a fifty-eight year-old to boot) then the Beat Wizard is your only hope. Learning the most common keyboard commands probably chopped a full third off my sequencing time. (And if I could type without looking at the keys it might even be faster still.) Discovering paste multiple was practically an unforgettable experience, and is an absolute must if you’re manually sequencing CCR’s and such. And I’m still in awe of the Repeat tool that I just discovered for myself a couple of weeks ago. Whether or not it’s worthy of a woody is a discussion for another time, but if sequencing offers something better than having copy/paste/paste-multiple all in one key, someone please tell me what that better thing is.Okay, who’s next? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny M. Carter Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 PASTE FROM FOREGROUND in the clipboard is my latest find. You can copy and paste chases right next to each other without the chase getting scrambled up. Try it. Thanks for this thread George. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shfr26 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 For us that are not that fast, remember the "Play at half speed" option. Easier to get the placement right for your elements. Like George stated, learn the key board shortcuts.1.O for on2. del for off3. u for fade up4.d for fade downThats only a few, too early to think right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Amedee Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 When doing leaping arches i work backwards from the end of the beat..Therefore making the leap land exactly on the beat. To control the speed of the leap i highlight the whole time frame i am leaping and delete selected timings. If you are using 8 segmate's you "insert mutiple timing" then use multipals of "8" ie..16,32 and so on. Then delete one..7 for 8 ,15 for 16..That way you start on beat and end on beat. If you don't like the speed..hit "edit" undo mutiple and try again.Infact the edit button is my best friend !!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubado Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 shfr26 wrote: For us that are not that fast, remember the "Play at half speed" option. Easier to get the placement right for your elements. Like George stated, learn the key board shortcuts.1.O for on2. del for off3. u for fade up4.d for fade downThats only a few, too early to think right now.5. t for twinkle6. s for shimmerThis may also be a good spot for suggestions to flood the wishlist for. My suggestion would be a box similar to intensity and fade for play speed, make it easier to toggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallleyes Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 Make multiple timing grids.Click on the timings button.I like to make every grid from 0.10 0.09 0.08 0.07 etc all the way down to 0.01. Use your zoom time in and zoom time out buttons to make your grids bigger or smaller. 0.01 is your fastest grid and 0.10 is your slowest grid.You can make slower grids for leaving your lights turned on for longer timings.0.11 0.12 0.13 1.10 5.10 etc. Use these different timing grids to make your patterns to make your timing marks come out right on the marks.I use the wave form with the different timing grids and can make the lights match up to the beats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Don Gillespie Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 I like to insert extra beat channels into my sequences click on a channel add a channel above or below copy and paste the beat into those channels makes sequencing easier and faster by not having to scroll up or down to find the beat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightzilla Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 "Whats this "Milk & Cookies are so 1990's Give Santa a beer"? That is just what we need more drunk drivers.Anyhow, the beat wizard is a good thing but that "view wave form" is another good friend to have around. Sure helps with voice. You take that scope hair and you follow the view wave form and when you hear a word stop the screen with the space bar.I can get the words right on these days, however some songs have a crap load of words and there are back ground singers too. Be prepared to spend time if you do words.I also take say a loud cymbal sound and add that into my timing marks, and other such things.I have about 10 "dead channel slots" for various timing marks........I may spend time doing timing marks but the sequencing is very fast after that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Don Gillespie Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 lightzilla wrote: "Whats this "Milk & Cookies are so 1990's Give Santa a beer"? That is just what we need to continue sequencing the way we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 So this thread is great, but even better would be a doc we could permanently post somewhere on the forum..maybe a newbie section sticky at minimum..I've already said "oh cool..didn't know that.." multiple times as I read this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Mitchell Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 If you have items like arches and spinners that sometimes are in sync and sometimes opposite each other, copy them into another track but reverse the order of them. Then when you want them to mirror each other you can just copy and paste to the reverse ordered one instead of building a reverse ordered sweep.Track 1Arch A 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 Arch B 1,2,3,4,5,6,7Tree or spinnerA 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 B 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12Track 2Arch A 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 Arch B 7,6,5,4,3,2,1Tree or spinnerA 12,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 B 12,11,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted February 27, 2011 Author Share Posted February 27, 2011 DonFL wrote: So this thread is great, but even better would be a doc we could permanently post somewhere on the forum..maybe a newbie section sticky at minimum..I've already said "oh cool..didn't know that.." multiple times as I read this one.Sounds like you just volunteered for a project. If you want to do some cutting and pasting to put a primer together in a word processing program, I'll volunteer to give you a hand organizing it. I'll even volunteer to post it on my website. I'm guessing there might be a few other people too who'd also want to post it on their site.Here's something that was described by whoever posted it a couple years ago when I first read it as "magic": Select a range of a couple sweeps in a chase you have - arches, mega, mini, whatever... push the Foreground button, push the Fade Down button, and then press Enter. Presto! The perfect tool for when you want to maintain motion with a fade-out at the end of a song.And if you're wondering what you'd ever use the BackGround button for, try this: Set the intensity tool to 30%. Select the same range for a couple of chase sweeps as you did above. Press the Background button, press the Intensity button, and then press Enter. Isn't that a lot quicker than doing it piece by piece? (And if we get an adjustable speed shimmer I see potential for some killer effects using the custom shimmer as background.)Note: After completing either type of maneuver described above, make sure you immediately un-press either the foreground or background button before trying to resume normal sequencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSedg Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 George Simmons wrote: DonFL wrote: So this thread is great, but even better would be a doc we could permanently post somewhere on the forum..maybe a newbie section sticky at minimum..I've already said "oh cool..didn't know that.." multiple times as I read this one.Sounds like you just volunteered for a project. If you want to do some cutting and pasting to put a primer together in a word processing program, I'll volunteer to give you a hand organizing it. I'll even volunteer to post it on my website. I'm guessing there might be a few other people too who'd also want to post it on their site.Here's something that was described by whoever posted it a couple years ago when I first read it as "magic": Select a range of a couple sweeps in a chase you have - arches, mega, mini, whatever... push the Foreground button, push the Fade Down button, and then press Enter. Presto! The perfect tool for when you want to maintain motion with a fade-out at the end of a song.And if you're wondering what you'd ever use the BackGround button for, try this: Set the intensity tool to 30%. Select the same range for a couple of chase sweeps as you did above. Press the Background button, press the Intensity button, and then press Enter. Isn't that a lot quicker than doing it piece by piece? (And if we get an adjustable speed shimmer I see potential for some killer effects using the custom shimmer as background.)Note: After completing either type of maneuver described above, make sure you immediately un-press either the foreground or background button before trying to resume normal sequencing. I need to get sequencing and trying all these new features I am learning. Thanks to all for your good information. You guys are awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 George Simmons wrote: DonFL wrote: So this thread is great, but even better would be a doc we could permanently post somewhere on the forum..maybe a newbie section sticky at minimum..I've already said "oh cool..didn't know that.." multiple times as I read this one.Sounds like you just volunteered for a project. If you want to do some cutting and pasting to put a primer together in a word processing program, I'll volunteer to give you a hand organizing it. I'll even volunteer to post it on my website. I'm guessing there might be a few other people too who'd also want to post it on their site.Here's something that was described by whoever posted it a couple years ago when I first read it as "magic": Select a range of a couple sweeps in a chase you have - arches, mega, mini, whatever... push the Foreground button, push the Fade Down button, and then press Enter. Presto! The perfect tool for when you want to maintain motion with a fade-out at the end of a song.And if you're wondering what you'd ever use the BackGround button for, try this: Set the intensity tool to 30%. Select the same range for a couple of chase sweeps as you did above. Press the Background button, press the Intensity button, and then press Enter. Isn't that a lot quicker than doing it piece by piece? (And if we get an adjustable speed shimmer I see potential for some killer effects using the custom shimmer as background.)Note: After completing either type of maneuver described above, make sure you immediately un-press either the foreground or background button before trying to resume normal sequencing. Geez, if I had the time....well, sleep is overrated anyway...I'll volunteer to put it together in a powerpoint or word doc, but I'd need to lean on the contributors to provide their "hint" in either of those formats...probably word is best..thinking a doc would work better than a ppt.If I can get everyone to do that...screenshots, etc..I'll do the compiling and work with george (need his expert eyes and experience as a proof reader)...just need to be patient with the processing time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Young Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 I echo what other folks have said. One thing I did not see mentioned - the clipboards.They are a huge time saver for me. I have sequenced items stored in them (have a about 2 dozen). For example - different type of fades, chases, and patterns for my megatree, my arches, and other display items.I just click on the desired effect, and control V (or mouse click paste) it into the sequence.If it doesn't exactly line up I create a new timing grid to allow it to do so (I have a 64 channel megatree, so if doing a chase I need to shorten my timings significantly via an appropriate new timing grid, or by subdividing the timing grid I have in that section of the sequence.Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Don Gillespie Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 Need I mention that the most important trick to remember is to back up all of your work as soon as you are done working with it, to many hours have gone to waste by not backing up your work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKSedg Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 DonFL wrote: George Simmons wrote: DonFL wrote: So this thread is great, but even better would be a doc we could permanently post somewhere on the forum..maybe a newbie section sticky at minimum..I've already said "oh cool..didn't know that.." multiple times as I read this one.Sounds like you just volunteered for a project. If you want to do some cutting and pasting to put a primer together in a word processing program, I'll volunteer to give you a hand organizing it. I'll even volunteer to post it on my website. I'm guessing there might be a few other people too who'd also want to post it on their site.Here's something that was described by whoever posted it a couple years ago when I first read it as "magic": Select a range of a couple sweeps in a chase you have - arches, mega, mini, whatever... push the Foreground button, push the Fade Down button, and then press Enter. Presto! The perfect tool for when you want to maintain motion with a fade-out at the end of a song.And if you're wondering what you'd ever use the BackGround button for, try this: Set the intensity tool to 30%. Select the same range for a couple of chase sweeps as you did above. Press the Background button, press the Intensity button, and then press Enter. Isn't that a lot quicker than doing it piece by piece? (And if we get an adjustable speed shimmer I see potential for some killer effects using the custom shimmer as background.)Note: After completing either type of maneuver described above, make sure you immediately un-press either the foreground or background button before trying to resume normal sequencing. Geez, if I had the time....well, sleep is overrated anyway...I'll volunteer to put it together in a powerpoint or word doc, but I'd need to lean on the contributors to provide their "hint" in either of those formats...probably word is best..thinking a doc would work better than a ppt.If I can get everyone to do that...screenshots, etc..I'll do the compiling and work with george (need his expert eyes and experience as a proof reader)...just need to be patient with the processing time..I can't wait. That will be a very awesome and useful document. Thanks, all of you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 So as soon as I get the "authors" of the hints to detail theirs as described previously, I'll start compiling. I'm still very much a sequencing newbie, so time, and more importantly, expertise, prevents me from taking these hints and transforming them into a tutorial; I'll compile and edit, but cannot author them. Besides, they are best coming from the person who posted them. And the more screenshots, the better.PM me for a personal email address for sending docs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 Don Gillespie wrote: Need I mention that the most important trick to remember is to back up all of your work This scheme works well for me: I do some sequencing in my spare time at work. About every day during the season, I save my sequences on a CD-R disc. I have about 3 discs for the year, and I cycle them. Every time I put new sequences on a disc, I put it in a folder named by the day, such as 2010-11-20. I write all sequences that have been modified since the last date on that disc.I don't do any sequencing on the show computer, but copy the latest sequences from the discs. I also have a separate computer at home that I also use for sequencing, so I copy the latest sequences on that one as well.With this scheme, I not only have all my sequences on 3 different computers in 2 different locations, but I have a history of every version of every sequence on each CD-R. Did I mention that a CD-R disc costs about 15¢? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceMedic Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 George Simmons wrote: So since I opened my big mouth, I’ll go first. The biggest time-saving things that have helped me personally are the Beat Wizard, learning the most common keyboard commands, and discovering paste multiple and the Repeat tool.Can you direct us some where that has a "How to use the beat wizard".I have tried and don't think I am using it to it's full potential.Thanks,Dave 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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