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I was wanting to offer up my channel/animation configuration to a few friends to see if they could come up with some neat ideas to program into it.

So I was looking at the demo version of the LOR software. It says it is a fully functional editor. Is it then just limited to editing/playing back, but not operating the real hardware?

Is LOR cool with this kind of arrangement? (Sharing your config with others who do not have the hardware, and their using the demo software to fool around with making a sequence on your display?)

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I think you would be fine with that. The demo software (which I have on this computer) is just the sequence editor...and the only thing you can't do is control the lights. Naturally, since you can't control the boards, the scheduler, hardware contoller, etc are not included in the demo package, but synchronizing lights should be just fine

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I'm also wondering about the next step, which is to publicly invite anyone to submit (for manual review) their own sequence. (Mind you, anyone with a website could do this, and if LOR doesn't mind, I'd certainly invite them to it.)

A nice popular (but perhaps not too complex) display could attract some visitors who could create their own sequences, and give a good plug for LOR while doing so. You'd figure that a good number of the people who would be interested in making a routine would also be interested in doing the same thing for themselves.

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It's early, and names aren't my strong point. (And I'm sure he'll read this thread.)

I had someone here at PC submit to me a fully functional sequence last year. I made a few slight modifications, and it ran during my show. Video is up on the web site. (Wow, title even escapes me right now.)

Michael, that's the name. Speak up and help me out here!

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Don, I am not Michael, but I did check your site:





God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen




This song, by Mehdi, was once a free download on Amazon.com. I had produced a tutorial on how to sequence lights using this song. Michael Farney decided to complete the sequence and send it to me. I decided to use it in the show. Thanks, Michael!


Video

Hope you don't mind the link to your site!

RandyA

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Yes, that would be me. I created the God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen sequence (my first sequence try ever!) as a test. I love programming, music, and creativity, so .... it was a good fit.

I created lorsequences.com for the purpose of sharing sequences, and it will expand into teaching sequencing when I get time. The LOR wiki also has sequences that haven't been submitted to my site, so you'll want to check those out too.

As I get more time, I'll see if I can create some tutorials on sequencing, but I'm also working on miniPlus stuff, a 16 or 32 channel show for this year, and I'm also helping a first year PCer with his 32 channel display. So as you can see, I'm a bit tied up at the moment. I haven't even ordered my boards yet! I've been waiting for LOR2, but I'm starting to think i need order because I'm running out of time to just sit and wait.


Hey RandyA! I always assumed that Don made the mendi tutorial I was working with! So I learned something new.

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Ah...I didn't quite see where you were going with that until now. I'll have to think about that one some. It doesn't quite fit to into my existing framework, so I'd have to code something new for it. It is certainly possible, though. Do you think people would use it?

On the flip slide, do you know how to use lorsequences.com to convert sequences for your layout? You still get a unique display to your exact specifications. The cool part is you don't have to create the timing grid, and there are already tons of "suggestions" built in by the previous author. I really need to get a demo online to show people how to convert sequences for their layout, but that will have to wait until after the Chicago mini-PLUS. You can also ask around PC for people to share. I have found that people are more willing to share a few of their existing sequences to those who ask as opposed to posting them on a website. However, all this is different from someone creating a sequence directly for your layout.

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In the early part of this year when I first started this whole project I was talking to a friend about what I was doing and he gave me lots of suggestions on how it should have slow fades and what not, anyway I had told him that if he sequenced a song, I would show it on my house. I gave him a copy of the LOR demo (have no idea why Dan would be upset since it is a free download), so he chose Jingle Bell Rock. I received his sequence a couple weeks ago and I must say it is the worst thing I have ever seen (and that is putting it kindly), I know he tried and worked hard on it, but my God, it is bad. He had told me that I could modify it if I wanted and I tried for several days but there is really not a lot I can do, due to how he used the timing marks. So I started over from scratch.

I really have no idea what if anything I should say to him, he lives about 20 miles away so it's not like he will come over much during the season. What I have done is put together 2 shows with Jingle Bell Rock, mine and his, when he calls and is coming over I will play the show with his sequence, but and really can't see showing it at any other time.

So for anyone considering having a friend sequence for you, just keep this in mind.

I expect and deserve to be flamed for this but really have not other idea on what to do.

Bill

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gremler wrote:

I expect and deserve to be flamed for this but really have not other idea on what to do.

Bill


Well, not really. Beggars can't be choosers. When others do the work, you get what you get. Unless you are blessed with musical skills, LOR sequencing is neither easy nor fun to learn. It just takes time. So if anything, we should learn to choose our help wisely. After all, this is why I like the web sharing idea so much. It works like open source software. The more people that touch the file, the better and more accurate the timing becomes. It's easier to learn LOR by converting a few sequences before actually creating your own. It helps reduce both frustrations and the learning curve.
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