Network Speed Question

[Joe Noe]

I've got one really busy section of a song that has noticible network lag. Versus setting up multiple networks could one change the network preferences to the "Fastest Speed" or would that hork something up? Not going to risk the whole show over a 15 second section two days from showtime, but it looks really cool on the animation window, just not quite as cool in real life with the lag....

Feedback appreciated.



Thanks

[Jeff Sand]

I always run the network at fast speed. No reason not to. There's no reason for it to throw your timing off.

[Max-Paul]

the only benifit to run the network at any speed less than full throtle is that you have a interference on the comm line. But this is also a sign that you need to find out what the problem is and to fix it. Than reducing the speed.

[Joe Noe]

So to move it to fastest do you simply go to the sequence editor for each song and change network preferences to fastest?

[Ponddude]

You only need to do it once and the SE will "remember" it.

[Joe Noe]

Any issues with ELL's on the network in doing this? (ELL Controllers not having this issue...less going on)

[Jeff Sand]

I believe you do need to set the ELL to the same speed of as the rest of the network. They will default to 19.2k. If you switch to "fastest", you'll need to reprogram them to 56k.

[Joe Noe]

OK, so my issue was definately with the network speed. When changing this to 56K, the problematic sections corrected themselves. However, it created a new problem. I have 19 local controllers and 4 remote via ELL's. The local went fine, but the other house connected via ELL will not go. Interestingly, I changed the network speed in the Hardware Utility for the ELL's and when testing with the hardware utility everything is just fine. However, when I attempt to play a sequence via the sequence editor, the hardwire connected controllers go, but those connected via ELL's will not. Strange that I can fire channels in the hardware utility but not with the sequence editor.


Any suggestions?



Thanks

[Joe Noe]

Joe Noe wrote:

OK, so my issue was definately with the network speed. When changing this to 56K, the problematic sections corrected themselves. However, it created a new problem. I have 19 local controllers and 4 remote via ELL's. The local went fine, but the other house connected via ELL will not go. Interestingly, I changed the network speed in the Hardware Utility for the ELL's and when testing with the hardware utility everything is just fine. However, when I attempt to play a sequence via the sequence editor, the hardwire connected controllers go, but those connected via ELL's will not. Strange that I can fire channels in the hardware utility but not with the sequence editor.


Any suggestions?



Thanks

Hmm.... Reading directions is key. Looks like the ELL has to be hardwire connected. That's probably why it's not changing to the faster network. I'm only changing the one that's in line with the hardwire. Interesting that the Hardware utility will still signal on opposite networks. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I plan to try and fix it tomorrow. Thanks

[Shubb]

I had the same problem last year. The ELL across the street would work with the hardware utility, but not in the sequence editor.
Yes, you have to cable connect the ELL if you change the network speed. Everything has to be on the same setting.

Scott

[Joe Noe]

Shubb wrote:

I had the same problem last year. The ELL across the street would work with the hardware utility, but not in the sequence editor.
Yes, you have to cable connect the ELL if you change the network speed. Everything has to be on the same setting.

Scott

As if I didn't have enough reasons, here's another one where it would be a good idea to buy the USB adapter so I can do things with a laptop. Don't want to carry a desktop down the street to make an update, so I guess it's climb up on the roof and pull down the ELL....



Thanks for the reply Scott. I'll knock this one out tonight.

[Shubb]

I could picture dragging a desktop/monitor/mouse/keyboard down the street. We've all done some crazy stuff like that.

I would recommend swapping it out with the one you already have reset to the correct speed. That way you don't have to climb up there twice.

Scott

[Joe Noe]

Well, this didn't do it for me. I thought of something... When looking in the sequence editor, There is slow speed, medium, and fastest. In the hardware utility for ELL's, there are settings for 19.2k, 57.6k and 115.2k however the 115.2k is greyed out. Does the 115.2 equate to the "fastest" in the sequence editor? Could that mismatch be my problem?

This is scaring me...close to showtime....

[Joe Noe]

Well, reading again helps....



Light-O-Rama controllers using various communication speeds. These speeds can be set independently for each Light-O-Rama network.



If you do not have extraordinary needs, "Average Recommended Setting" is suggested.



If your controllers are hooked to your computer using a very long or poor quality communications cable, you may need to set the speed to "Long Range Medium Speed".



If you have many circuits with very fast action you may need to set the speed to "Short Range Fastest Speed". This setting is not supported if you are using Light-O-Rama Easy Light Linkers for wireless communications.









The last line is the killer. I'm not sure I see a workaround here but I'm open to suggestions. Dan...any chance ELL's are supporting 115k in some sort of "Beta" I can have?

[Joe Noe]

Could I possibly do it so I have one network for the ELL's running on 56K, and a second for everything else running on 115K?

[Joe Noe]

Here you can see the network latency at the 56K setting. Watch the reindeer in the front yard between 1:30 and 1:45. They start wigging out a bit and then normalize after the section ends. At the 115K setting this goes away.