Question and Feature Request: Option for S5 scheduler in S6 / can someone confirm behavior in S6?

[JoDrRe]

Sorry this is a double-edged topic. 

In S5 I could program a show to run at 5:30pm, I knew the songs only ran 9:45, so I would program the all-on animation show for 9 minutes after the musical show started so once the last song finished it would go right to the animation. Is that still the case?

Other part of this is is there a way to look graphically at the schedule? The S5 interface was tedious but the graphical layout helped identify gaps. And if it's not possible then feature request to add that as an option.

I might just be behind the times, we had our opening night for the holiday season and today during the daylight was the first time I was able to see our PixieCon16 tree actually work (Ethernet signal strength issue), have been focused on that so haven't been able to really learn the S6 Control Panel ins and outs.

 

Above all this is this is for a show at work, I broke my knee and still can't drive, so I can't see anything beyond what the control panel tells me. Our opening night was tonight (Saturday 11/19) and had to get a ride in to finally be able to see the show. Been in every day this week but because of our networking issues tonight was the first night I got to see the entire show.

[Jeremiah Ackermann]

To make sure I am are understanding, you have two shows, first is doing one or musical musical sequences and a second with one or more animations? You are starting at 5:30pm and at some other end time like 9 or 10pm and to do that, you are alternating each show in the schedule roughly every 10 minutes?

[JoDrRe]

So yes there's two shows, one starts at 4:00 when it gets dark and it's just a simple animated sequence so the lights are on. Then at 5:30, 6:30, and 7:30 the second show plays and that's the musical one with actual programming. This year's is 9 and a half minutes long, so when it's done then the static show runs.

I think I do have to just have the musical show "run" in the scheduler for 9 minutes, and then it'll go into shutdown status until the last song finishes.

But yeah, the graphical layout in S5 was nice to see what was scheduled, even if it was a bit tedious to add/remove/edit.

[k6ccc]

First question, why on earth are you going to all the effort to set up a show and then run it for less than 10% of the evening?  This concept has one major flaw.  Unless there is some very specific reason, start the show and let it run.  If people come to see your show, and there is no show running, most of them will just keep on driving and they will not come back.

 

[dgrant]

I'm using two different shows simultaneously. One runs in the background of the main show running.  Not sure if that's an idea for you or not. Given that I've got over 60 songs/sequences, I've broken the show into two main shows that will run on alternate nights. There are some sequences that are shown in both shows, because I like them, lol. But, I have to agree with Jim, why bother to have a show at all if you aren't going to run it for the desired time each night? People will not just hang out waiting for the next sequence to start.

[Steven]

6 hours ago, dgrant said:

I'm using two different shows simultaneously. One runs in the background of the main show running.

Will you please rephrase that? Because you can't run two shows at the same time on the same system with LOR.

Do you mean that you are using two different shows that play (separately) on the same night, or that your show includes Background sequences?

[Jeremiah Ackermann]

I can understand scenarios for wanting to have an animation and limited but scheduled show times. Unfortunately when back to back shows are in the schedule, the previous show will not immediately end so that the new show is guaranteed to play at its precise start time. It will be some time later as the previous show shuts down in a graceful manner. This can be mitigated to a certain degree if your animation sequence is short (10 seconds). 

According to the thread linked below, I was thinking one could setup a schedule where the background/animation show runs the entire time period, but the musical show overrides it during specific times (knowing the limits with back to back shows starting/stopping). But its not working that way and I perhaps misunderstood @MattBrown in his reply or there is a bug with that implementation.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvuEQSc6qO9KgZNok3ftNLYagBYP2w?e=AYnUn1
 
 

 

[dgrant]

1 hour ago, Steven said:

Will you please rephrase that? Because you can't run two shows at the same time on the same system with LOR.

Do you mean that you are using two different shows that play (separately) on the same night, or that your show includes Background sequences?

Sorry, I actually have two different shows that appear on every other night. However the simultaneously part is a background sequence, not a show...my bad. They were done with two different previews to insure that no channels interfere with each other's shows/background. I ran into that back in S4 when a background show was turning off pixels even though the playing sequence was turning them on. Lots of flashy/blinky going on. Finally figured it out and made sure ever since to not let that happen again.

[JoDrRe]

On 11/20/2022 at 7:17 PM, k6ccc said:

First question, why on earth are you going to all the effort to set up a show and then run it for less than 10% of the evening?  This concept has one major flaw.  Unless there is some very specific reason, start the show and let it run.  If people come to see your show, and there is no show running, most of them will just keep on driving and they will not come back.

 

I work for a resort so the musical show runs at set times to appease the HOA for the area (complicated) as well as to drive business to the outlets. Our target demo is families with children so anything longer than 10 minutes and the kids will be kids and want to do something else

[k6ccc]

3 minutes ago, JoDrRe said:

I work for a resort so the musical show runs at set times to appease the HOA for the area (complicated) as well as to drive business to the outlets. Our target demo is families with children so anything longer than 10 minutes and the kids will be kids and want to do something else

Sounds like you have one of those "specific reasons" for the odd schedule.  I asked the question because having a short show that runs on a schedule with static lights (or worse, dark) in between is a rather common request for new lighters who think it's a good idea until they learn that for a "normal" home show, the public won't wait around for a schedule.  Light show not running = drive away (and not return).

 

[dgrant]

You should be able to add an override sequence(s) that you manually trip via the APP on your phone. This would play the desired sequence either immediately or after the  current sequence ends. But at the end of that, it would go back to the scheduled show. You could load the desired sequences into the "Live Player" CUE file, then you can play whatever sequence you wish, on demand. Not sure that's what you need but its a possible direction.