k6ccc Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 Yesterday to test something I ran a show that had all the songs and announcements in my 2021 Christmas show. I had done that before and as expected the show ran without needing to create Playback files because they already existed. This morning, for a test, I am running a different show, but it is a subset of the same sequences that were played in the test show yesterday. The Show Player is having to create Playback files again. Are Playback files show specific or sequence specific (as I would expect), and if the latter, why is it having to create playback files again? 2022-07-19 09:41:57 Scheduler INFO Schedule loaded 2022-07-19 09:42:40 Scheduler INFO Enable schedule requested 2022-07-19 09:49:05 Scheduler INFO Request to start show on demand received: L:\Sequences\Christmas 2021\2021 Opening night.lss 2022-07-19 09:49:05 Player INFO Initializing show: L:\Sequences\Christmas 2021\2021 Opening night.lss 2022-07-19 09:49:05 Player INFO Creating playback file because it did not exist: L:\Sequences\Christmas 2021\A Mad Russian Christmas\A Mad Russian Christmas 2021-11-13a.loredit 2022-07-19 09:52:23 Player INFO Creating playback file because it did not exist: L:\Sequences\Christmas 2021\Hark\Hark the Herold Angels Sing 2021-11-13a.loredit 2022-07-19 09:55:22 Player INFO Creating playback file because it did not exist: L:\Sequences\Christmas 2021\All I want is you\All I want for Christmas 2021-11-13a.loredit Light-O-Rama Control Panel (64-bit) Version 6.0.4 (BETA) Copyright 2022 Light-O-Rama, Inc. Pro Edition Registered to: Jim Walls Microsoft Windows Server 2019 Essentials 64-bit Intel® Xeon® CPU L5520 @ 2.27GHz Microsoft Basic Display Adapter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrant Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 If you changed anything in the preview, it'll regenerate all associated sequences with new playback files. However, I've seen that each time I open a sequence, after it was saved and a day or two later, it suddenly determines on its own that something changed without my doing it, so the change flag is on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 Nope. No changes to the 2021 sequences or 2021 preview in the last 8 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrant Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I've seen mine suddenly create new playback files stating they were out of date by just minutes, days or hours. No explainable reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrant Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Here is what mine is showing right now. Copied while in progress 2022-07-20 8:39:37 AM Scheduler INFO Schedule loaded 2022-07-20 11:32:17 AM Scheduler INFO Enable schedule requested 2022-07-20 11:32:44 AM Scheduler INFO Request to start show on demand received: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Christmas Show 1.lss 2022-07-20 11:32:44 AM Player INFO Initializing show: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Christmas Show 1.lss 2022-07-20 11:32:44 AM Player INFO Creating new playback file because the preview was updated: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Amazing Grace 2022.loredit 2022-07-20 11:32:49 AM Player INFO Creating playback file because it was out of date by 5.8 days: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Christmas Can-Can 2022.loredit 2022-07-20 11:32:57 AM Player INFO Creating playback file because it was out of date by 4.7 days: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Christmas Special_2022.loredit 2022-07-20 11:33:05 AM Player INFO Creating new playback file because the preview was updated: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\I Wanna A Hippo For Christmas 2022.loredit 2022-07-20 11:33:12 AM Player INFO Creating new playback file because the preview was updated: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\DJ Swede Music Box Dancer 2022.loredit 2022-07-20 11:33:20 AM Player INFO Creating playback file because it was out of date by 5.8 days: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Beginning to Look Like Christmas 2022.loredit 2022-07-20 11:34:34 AM Player INFO Creating playback file because it was out of date by 5.7 days: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Believe 2022.loredit 2022-07-20 11:35:05 AM Player INFO Creating playback file because it was out of date by 5.8 days: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Bells of Christmas 2022.loredit 2022-07-20 11:35:17 AM Player INFO Creating playback file because it was out of date by 5.8 days: C:\Users\dgran.DESKTOP-NFDA18G\Documents\Light-O-Rama\Sequences\Chipmunks 2022.loredit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah Ackermann Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 It sounds like sequences are not being opened and saved and this happens on its own? Do either of you have the LOR folder being synced with a cloud storage utility or some other file sync utility for machines on your local network? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted July 20, 2022 Author Share Posted July 20, 2022 In my case, the LOR files are saved on a mapped network drive on my file server. So all computer see the LOR directory structure as L:\ - which is shared as \\Jupiter\LOR. In reality it is D:\Shared\LOR on the file server named Jupiter. For my recent testing, the server is the computer that is running LOR S6, so there should not be an issue accessing the LOR directory structure since it's on the same computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah Ackermann Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) Ok. I believe playback file format was changed compared to S5, so it would regenerate once for that. It also regenerates when your preview changes, Enhanced LOR communication changes, or you edited the sequence (playback file being out of date by X days). For a sequence edit, its not a smart detection, it only compares the last modified dates on the files. So a file sync utility could end up changing the modified date (date it synced versus the date on the source machine), but a mapped network drive would be seen the same across multiple computers/machines. Edited July 20, 2022 by Jeremiah Ackermann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrant Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 (edited) In my case, I easily understand if a preview changed but if so, then 60-70 sequences would all be impacted and need updating, not just some here and there. Plus others where no change took place to either the preview or the sequence, still regenerating the playback file because it was "x" number of minutes/hours/days out of date? That makes no sense at all. Edited July 20, 2022 by dgrant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrant Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Mine are only internal to this one machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrant Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Just now, per the player log, my Halloween preview changed therefore its creating new playback files. No it did not change or was not updated at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrant Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 (edited) Interesting just now. I opened the sequencer to a song that I just played via the show player and AFTER it created a new playback file. Now it shows the "change flag" set again when in fact, nothing changed. This problem still exists. Disregard please. More brain-gas on my part. The change flag should be on, since this is now 6.0.6 Edited July 26, 2022 by dgrant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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