thebaronn Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I have a question.So i have 7 LOR1602W controllers.I have the adapter that goes from a USB to an ethernet cable. and i plug the first controller in to that and then the 2nd into the 1st and then so on.My question:Intead of plugging in the 1st controller, can I plug it in to a wireless router? And then plug any controller in to the router? And then have a few controllers wired into the router and a few controllers on a wireless network bridge?Any help would be greatly appreciated!Thank youEric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoore60 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 No you CANNOT use a wireless router. Although the connections between the controllers are using Cat5 cable. The signal on that wire is 485 not ethernet.You risk harming your controller to even try.485 uses only 2 wires for bidirectional communications. In LOR 2 wires are used for communication and 2 wires for voltage. In ethernet 2 wires are used for transmitt and 2 for receive. Two totally different communication protocols.Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Jones Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 NOthe information being transmitted from the USB is RS485. In no way shape or form, does it resemble TCP/IP. It is not ethernet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaronn Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 Sigh....So what is the easiest way to have one controller "wireless"I have a DC board that I need to be wireless, so I can walk around.Also I want to hook up a fogger to a DMX thingamajig!!I guess im buying these (so far)http://www.ambientweather.com/ptchvdmx3f.htmlandhttp://www.ambientweather.com/dbf1700.htmlAnd I have no clue ablut the DMX stuff. So any help on that would be great also.Thank you againEric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaronn Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 BTW, i thought i was being pretty slick until it took 3 seconds for everyone to tell me NO!lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmoore60 Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 To make LOR network wireless, or part of the network wireless you will need this.http://store.lightorama.com/ealili.htmlChuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaronn Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 using those wireless adapters, I assume the "wireless controller" has to be last in the series?And if I wanted to hook up DMX control for my fogger, how would that work?DOnt they both have to be last in the series?Thank youEric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 thebaronn wrote: using those wireless adapters, I assume the "wireless controller" has to be last in the series?No, the ELL (Easy Light Linker) has two RJ45 jacks. You can put it in your network at any point. Obviously, the second ELL would go on the new portion of your network that is not physically connected to the first.And if I wanted to hook up DMX control for my fogger, how would that work?You would need an iDMX interface.cmoore60 wrote:You risk harming your controller to even try.Actually, you risk harming your router. The controller will put about 10 volts DC directly on one of the Ethernet pairs. The relatively small voltage from the router probably wouldn't hurt the controller, but it definitely will not work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaronn Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 gosh, that is $250!!!Then what is this http://store.lightorama.com/rjtoxlr3ma.htmlRJ-45 to XLR 3-pin MaleAdapter to connect a LOR-Enabled Controller to a DMX Universe$9.95?????Was excited for a second........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Yes, DMX is expensive. That's why LOR was invented: To give people like us the chance to do synchronized lighting on a budget.Electrically, LOR and DMX both use RS485. That is why new LOR controllers with the new firmware can talk on either LOR or DMX networks, but not both at the same time. The RJ-45 to XLR adapter lets your plug a new LOR controller into a DMX universe (network). The purpose is so you can use an LOR controller in an existing, expensive, DMX network.On the other hand, if you plug a DMX device into an LOR network, nothing will happen. The DMX device will "hear" the RS485 signal, but won't get any DMX data, so it will do nothing. An LOR data packet will be ignored by a DMX device.The iDMX acts as a gateway from an LOR network to a DMX network. That's the only way you're going to be able to control a DMX device using LOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebaronn Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 apparently I'm buying that today as well!LOLthank youeric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbomb341 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 thebaronn wrote: Then what is this http://store.lightorama.com/rjtoxlr3ma.htmlRJ-45 to XLR 3-pin MaleAdapter to connect a LOR-Enabled Controller to a DMX Universe$9.95This is for controlling your LOR Controllers as Dimmer Packs on a DMX network (http://www.lightorama.com/Documents/DMX-DOC.pdf) - you can't hook a DMX device upto this adapter on a LOR network - you need the iDMX controler (http://store.lightorama.com/smdmxin.html) to do that.Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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