KeysNole Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I have E131 (holiday sequences) sequences uploaded into my LOR sequences. In the past everything has been fine. This year, my LOR sequences will not run properly along with my E131 sequences. If I create an independent LOR sequence, the lights behave as they should. If I run my LOR and DMX on the same sequence (through LOR), my LED lights go haywire. The DMX channels act as they should. Any tips or recommendations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 How are you combining the sequences? I run about 60,000 E1.31 channels along with my LOR channels this year and they are working just fine. Confirming that all your DMX is controlled via E1.31 and you have LOR devices on a separate RS-485 network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 I am combining them via the holidaycoro video tutorial. Yes, DMX controlled via E131 and LOR via RS-485. Attached is a general screenshot. 16 channels on the ribbon tree and 32 channels of LOR. The lights have a totally random twinkling effect and do not follow the sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 How do you have your controllers setup in the network preference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 26 minutes ago, Dennis Laff said: How do you have your controllers setup in the network preference Let me know if there is anything specific I should show you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) when you added the holiday sequences to your sequences did you copy and paste o match your ccr channels Edited December 3, 2018 by Dennis Laff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Dennis Laff said: when you added the holiday sequences to your sequences did you copy and paste o match your ccr channels I believe we used this video. I don't believe it was copy and paste as much as importing the existing sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 That video has absolutely nothing about using LOR to sequence other channels or configuring them. Based on the video, I would expect that the E1.31 sequence you bought from Holiday Sequences would run, but there would be nothing else. To do anything with additional channels, you would need to add them and then either sequence those channels, or if they already exist in another sequence file, copy and paste the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 8 hours ago, k6ccc said: That video has absolutely nothing about using LOR to sequence other channels or configuring them. Based on the video, I would expect that the E1.31 sequence you bought from Holiday Sequences would run, but there would be nothing else. To do anything with additional channels, you would need to add them and then either sequence those channels, or if they already exist in another sequence file, copy and paste the data. When I import the E131 sequence I then add my LOR channels like the screen shot above. I am waiting to hear from the LOR help desk, but they did say " The controllers aren't smart enough to do anything themselves UNLESS you have downloaded a standalone animation sequence to one of them and it's sending commands to the controllers at the same time your computer is sending commands." I found this video where the user copies and pastes each individual universe, as opposed to importing the entire thing at once...I wonder if this will help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 When downloaded the Holiday sequences sequence your using there channel layout and universe numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dennis Laff said: When downloaded the Holiday sequences sequence your using there channel layout and universe numbers Yes, as laid out in the holiday coro tutorial. The DMX channels operate just fine...I am trying to figure out how or why they may interfere with the LOR channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Can you show a sreen shot of your controllers in network preferences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dennis Laff said: Can you show a sreen shot of your controllers in network preferences. Hopefully you can see this. Had to resize the photo as the LOR forum would not accept the size of the other screenshot. Edited December 3, 2018 by KeysNole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The standard work around for the small forum upload limit is to upload the photos or screen captures to a website somewhere and post the link. For example, the very old photo below is coming from my web server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Keysnole what controller are you using for the pixel tree ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Dennis Laff said: Keysnole what controller are you using for the pixel tree ? Alphapix 16 https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOVRvetDx9Wq4drJ06_-5FahdbRizuasHygBIms https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipOc1wDNplrJP089avJhdeM4efFYvfj07SgSjOKv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) KeysNole if your using an Alphapix controller it Is not an LOR controller it needs to be in Network Preferences in the DMX section you assign it a Ip address if in unicast and it connects to Ethernet port on computer not thru the LOR usb-485 Edited December 3, 2018 by Dennis Laff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 3, 2018 Author Share Posted December 3, 2018 I am in DMX with the appropriate IP address. The LOR help desk won’t go any further with me because it’s E131. They are basically saying imported DMX sequences can make my LOR sequences go haywire and that’s it. Frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 In your screen shot your not in the right location Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 24 minutes ago, KeysNole said: I am in DMX with the appropriate IP address. The LOR help desk won’t go any further with me because it’s E131. They are basically saying imported DMX sequences can make my LOR sequences go haywire and that’s it. Frustrating. E1.31 and LOR co-exist just fine together. However, the LOR help desk draws the line on where they stop support. Basicly, once E1.31 traffic leaves the show computer, that is the end of their responsibility (unless it's going to a PixCon16). Too many variables with users networks and other controllers. As for combining your purchased sequences and your existing LOR sequencing, one way or the other you will be doing a bunch of copy and paste. You can either copy the purchased sequence into your existing sequence or copy your existing sequence into the purchased one. In either case, you need to build all the channels so there is a target to paste into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Jim in the last screen shot before your house he's in the lor tab in network preferences with lor Id's assigned to the alpha pix which he said is running the pixel tree ,By the way super big tree you got now looks good lot a work . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Dennis Laff said: By the way super big tree you got now looks good lot a work . That's an old picture from 2013. Here is a better one taken this morning. The new tree is a couple feet taller to allow room under it for some presents (next year?) and the lit portion is now 10 inches longer. 6 minutes ago, Dennis Laff said: Jim in the last screen shot before your house he's in the lor tab in network preferences with lor Id's assigned to the alpha pix which he said is running the pixel tree That does not make sense. Sounds like someone needs to get him on the phone - or better yet a TeamViewer session and get him straightened out. I can likely do that this evening if desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Laff Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Jim how big your tune to sign is that the p10 or the P5 sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Dennis Laff said: Jim how big your tune to sign is that the p10 or the P5 sign That is the P10 matrix. It is 4W x 3H or just over 4 feet wide by just under 19 inches tall. That is not where it will ultimately be placed, but I ran out of time to get it's enclosure built so it's there under the eves to keep it out of the rain (which we got last week and more expected in a couple days). Hopefully I will get the two enclosures built this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeysNole Posted December 4, 2018 Author Share Posted December 4, 2018 Just tried to copy and paste rather than import entire DMX sequence...LOR tells me it's out of memory wouldn't play. Isn't technology fun?!? I appreciate the help and time you guys have provided. If you have any other recommendations before we just plug in and go static please let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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