Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 59 minutes ago, TheDucks said: Ditto. maybe for very 12V sort runs (forget it for 5Vruns over 3') 40', I would do 16Ga minimum for a 5M strip (~4A). bump it anothe ga (14) for longer or 2 strips. Dim lights will be the issue with small wire. I have no dimming issues using cat 5 at 40 feet. Might be good for longer lengths. It's worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Santas Helper said: I have no dimming issues using cat 5 at 40 feet. Might be good for longer lengths. It's worth a try. I have tons of Cat 5. so I certainly will... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Thank you all for your help, it is very awesome. How are these? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10W-thin-housing-4-wires-connection-rgb-led-flood-light-DC12V-ip66-waterproof-used-for-supermarkets/1500154374.html?spm=2114.search0104.8.76.y8ERJL&transAbTest=ae803_1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Need to be looking for something like these with four wire cables: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/20W-RGB-LED-flood-light-DC24V-input-with-4-wire-PWM-driver-inside/701799_2037326943.html?spm=2114.12010608.0.0.WE0YRw Those are PMW or DMX control. Those won't work with DC CMB controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Santas Helper said: Those are PMW or DMX control. Those won't work with DC CMB controllers. I was just referencing the picture for the four wire cable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Septon said: Thank you all for your help, it is very awesome. How are these? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/10W-thin-housing-4-wires-connection-rgb-led-flood-light-DC12V-ip66-waterproof-used-for-supermarkets/1500154374.html?spm=2114.search0104.8.76.y8ERJL&transAbTest=ae803_1 Not for DC CMB controllers. You want two wire or three wire (with ground). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Mr. P said: I was just referencing the picture for the four wire cable. No I realize that... thanks P, thanks SHelper. I think I will just get the 2 CBM cards for the Strips. But to check one more time. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LED-Strip-5050-30LED-m-5m-150LEDs-12V-flexible-light-Warm-White-White-Red-Blue-Green/32327518420.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.271.UuUF7f Will be fine for waht I want for that though right? And again, sorry to hog your day and expertise guys. THis is my first time, and frankly my wife is going to kill me for spending $800 so I am trying to maximize... ($800 USD is about $356,000 Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Santas Helper said: Not for DC CMB controllers. You want two wire or three wire (with ground). What? I think there is some confusion here. You DO want four wires for a dumb RGB light... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mr. P said: I was just referencing the picture for the four wire cable. If using DC CMB controllers, 4 wires won't be any good. It will still have to be hacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Santas Helper said: If using DC CMB controllers, 4 wires won't be any good. It will still have to be hacked. No, no, you need the four wires, R, G, B, and Pos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Septon said: No I realize that... thanks P, thanks SHelper. I think I will just get the 2 CBM cards for the Strips. But to check one more time. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LED-Strip-5050-30LED-m-5m-150LEDs-12V-flexible-light-Warm-White-White-Red-Blue-Green/32327518420.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.271.UuUF7f Will be fine for waht I want for that though right? And again, sorry to hog your day and expertise guys. THis is my first time, and frankly my wife is going to kill me for spending $800 so I am trying to maximize... ($800 USD is about $356,000 Canadian. Here we go again. Mixing the words warm white with RGB. You can't hAve both. This scares me too. I would suggest an eBay seller located in the states with 90+ rating. Buy just a couple to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Mr. P said: No, no, you need the four wires, R, G, B, and Pos. But is states for PMW or DMX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Santas Helper said: Here we go again. Mixing the words warm white with RGB. You can't hAve both. This scares me too. I would suggest an eBay seller located in the states with 90+ rating. Buy just a couple to try out. Fair, but you can choose! It is ALL OPTIONS in that one. I get to choose the type, IE Changeable and IP65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Santas Helper said: Here we go again. Mixing the words warm white with RGB. You can't hAve both. This scares me too. I would suggest an eBay seller located in the states with 90+ rating. Buy just a couple to try out. +0.5 Or because you appear not to be very technical, stick with the LOR floods - that's what mine are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, Santas Helper said: But is states for PMW or DMX. Correct, for that light but for DC CMB controllers you still need four wires, R,G and B are negative wires with a common positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 https://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/LED-Strip-5050-30LED-m-5m-150LEDs-12V-flexible-light-Warm-White-White-Red-Blue-Green/32327518420.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000017.2.4b24ae2b5omzSh Shows RBG + Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Correct, for that light but for DC CMB controllers you still need four wires, R,G and B are negative wires with a common positive. Yes, which is coming off the actual LEDs and housing. Is there circuitry inside for DMX or IR controller, that is the question. Edited August 31, 2017 by Santas Helper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Santas Helper said: Yes, which is coming off the actual LEDs and housing. Is there circuitry inside for DMX, that is the question. Tom, you are stuck on the light I was referencing the light for the four wire cable. Besides he is back to the strips now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septon Posted August 31, 2017 Author Share Posted August 31, 2017 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LED-Strip-5050-30LED-m-5m-150LEDs-12V-flexible-light-Warm-White-White-Red-Blue-Green/32327518420.html?spm=a2g0s.13010208.99999999.271.UuUF7f Ok... but That above should be ok right? I will get the floods from LOR if I am going to. I am now torn about sticking with the 16 Plug CTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Tom, you are stuck on the light I was referencing the light for the four wire cable. Besides he is back to the strips now. Your probably right Mr P. Lol Not to mention I'm on my smart phone. New at it here lol Edited August 31, 2017 by Santas Helper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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