capardo Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 As a newbie beginning their second year, I have found sequencing to be quite a challenge. There is a technical and artistic side that I just don't quite get....yet. I have asked several of you for sequences(THANKS!!), but I am having a heck of a time translating your setup to mine. It is definitely a learning curve. I did a search yesterday in this particular forum and saw that many have used Wowlights to get started in this hobby/obsession. Surely, there are many (like me) that are having trouble sequencing, yet use the Wowlights setup/layout? So, a thought occurred to me yesterday.... Does anyone have any "Wowlights -layout based" sequences to share? I am strictly looking for WowLights setups only. Specifically, sequences in the following categories/layouts: 16-channel and 32-channel Halloween 16, 32, 48, 64, 128-channel Christmas (If you are a Wowlights user, you know what the layouts look like!) I am looking for original work only, meaning that if the song has already been done by them, let's just not go there. (Even if you did it yourself). If I get enough responses, I'll try to organize them in some way and make them available publicly. I'm hoping there are others out there like me who are interested in this..... Chuck capardo@bellsouth.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Sarge Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 So... What are you saying... looking for wowlights in one sentence and in another you are not looking for wow lights sequences... make up your mind.. This is a hobby that you will need to either learn or just be a follower of other people in. very very few here will have the EXACT SAME LAYOUT AS YOU so there for you will need to take the time to go over the tutorials and do some learning on your own... If you are planning on just having the EXACT SAME LAYOUT AS WOWLIGHTS do then you need to say so... It reads in your post as you are looking for the same setup sequences as WOW lights but then you say you are not looking for the samr sequences that WOW lights has.. Many of us here are willing to share until you get so specific as to I WANT THIS AND ONLY THIS AND NOTHING ELSE.. I guess that leaves you out of the 150 PLUS sequences that I freely share. Good Luck in your show if you arent willing to put a little effort into it and learn some things for yourself.. After all.. the TUTORIALS are very very good if you just take the time to go over them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caniac Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I started out with WoWLights sequences and use their setup "sorta". For legal reasons I won't share their sequences but do use there config file and have modified it over the years. But echoing what Old Sarge has said you need to be a bit more specific with the understanding that you might be excluding some really good sequences if you limit yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightzilla Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 A number of folks have a "plug & Play" set up. They set up their displays like Lor's 4 x 4 or 6 x 6 layouts, others set up to Wowlights layout. If you are really having that hard of a time sequencing then go with the Wowlights set up & buy their sequences, it is just that simple. You can get them custom done but if you go with they Wowlight setup then stick with the sequences they make. However, I believe you can sequence your own stuff if you put your mind to it. You can have a nice flowing show with some flash, but yet have some nice gentle ramps & fades and your display will wow the people. What is your set up for 2016? Do you have your layout ready for 2016? Do you have a lee file or a sequence that will be a part of your 2016 show? The reason I am asking is that if you do then let me know & I will sequence a song ( one I already have) & I will sequence this song & show you how I do it & then you can use that sequence like a learning tool. I will put every kind of timing mark for words, & back up voices, guitars, drums, cymbals etc in what is called 10 "dead channels" which will be located at the top of the sequences. I deleted most every sequence I made recently, but I need to keep fresh & so I can start from scratch. So I will make one for you but then you are on your own. Just remember the timing marks........they help make the display. Like arches can go with the loud cymbals, or certain drum beats, guitar playing can go with mega trees or a Marty Fan, groups of words can do wonders on a 15 channel Marty Fan, or a Mega Tree. Getting the fan or the Mega tree to flow nicely with no abrupt stops is important. A mega Tree or a Marty Fan can do more than just the "Spin-a-rama move". I will only help if you have your 2016 layout done. Plus I need your lee file or a sequence that will be a part of your 2016 layout. I have a lot on my plate so please make a decision. Please PM me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oilmoney Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 15 hours ago, capardo said: As a newbie beginning their second year, I have found sequencing to be quite a challenge. There is a technical and artistic side that I just don't quite get....yet. I have asked several of you for sequences(THANKS!!), but I am having a heck of a time translating your setup to mine. It is definitely a learning curve. I did a search yesterday in this particular forum and saw that many have used Wowlights to get started in this hobby/obsession. Surely, there are many (like me) that are having trouble sequencing, yet use the Wowlights setup/layout? So, a thought occurred to me yesterday.... Does anyone have any "Wowlights -layout based" sequences to share? I am strictly looking for WowLights setups only. Specifically, sequences in the following categories/layouts: 16-channel and 32-channel Halloween 16, 32, 48, 64, 128-channel Christmas (If you are a Wowlights user, you know what the layouts look like!) I am looking for original work only, meaning that if the song has already been done by them, let's just not go there. (Even if you did it yourself). If I get enough responses, I'll try to organize them in some way and make them available publicly. I'm hoping there are others out there like me who are interested in this..... Chuck capardo@bellsouth.net The most valuable tool/time saver you can get from a shared sequence is the timings. The first thing I do when I get a shared sequence is watch it play on the sequence editor. Pick one prop/channel to watch at a time, chances are one of the props will be sequenced to the drums, bass, vocals etc. You'll be able to spot a pattern with at least some of the channels. For example you might notice that the channel labeled " candy canes " turns on and off to the beat of the drums. Now that you know that the " candy canes " follow to the drum beat you can copy that channel for the entire song and then open a new musical sequence and paste the timings on one of your channels, for example your " snowflakes ". You have now sequenced in less than 5 minutes on your snowflakes what probably took someone hours to figure out and get dialed in properly. This is one of the biggest reasons IMO that we share sequences amongst each other like this on the forums, to save some time and work. Shared sequences are also useful to see how people created their effects as well. As we all know this hobby has a steep learning curve and it's frustrating as hell to try to figure it out at first but you got to keep chipping away at it. I'm guessing that there's a lot more of us on here that started doing this without the wowlights setup than ones that did. I just stopped writing this post and checked out the diagrams on wow lights, they're pretty much common to what alot of us do anyways. It's only Feb 26, you've still got tons of time to tinker with this...Good luck and have fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 (edited) My first sequences were MY own and I really thought they were pretty good, looking at them today they are H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E! And I do mean really bad too. LOL But I kept working at it, been doing it for 6 years as of this year{2016}, as I started in 2010{actually Dec. 2009 after Christmas}, Halloween being my first show in 2010. But if you don't put some effort into it, sit down, take your time, don't try and rush it, you'll get it. I did, took me a couple years to start getting my sequences looking better and better, and sometimes I still get a really horrid one because I had to "rush it in" last minute or use an older version because I didn't have enough time to update and tweak it. And there will be a lot of hours spent on former sequences to get them to look and flow better each year you use them, it's inevitable! I never used any WoWLights sequences, fortunately I did get some shared sequences and that helped me to see just how things WERE supposed to flow a bit better in a sequence, some of my first sequences were really awful, some were okay, but definitely not up to a lot of folks that had been doing this years before I came along. But you've got to sit yourself down in front of the computer, load the SE and start playing around with it, I finally came up after a year with a way to use shimmer and a coulple other effects to make my Halloween Jack O' Lanterns using opaque C7 orange bulbs to simulate a candle flame very closely. It's still not perfect, and every year I tweak it up to try and get it to be a close to a real candle flicker as I can get, but it's taken me 3 years to get where I am just with that effect! Patience, perseverance and studying shared sequences is what got me where I am, however, I'm not going to say "If I can do it, you can do it", why? I hate people that say that because it's truly NOT factual at all, just because one can do something does not mean in no way, shape or form am I going to think I can do it, because I know my limitations. And is why I detest that idiotic statement. However, you may not be able to do it exactly as I, or others do it, but you will eventually, providing you stick with it and follow a lot of the advice offered here on the forums. Then you to will be able to do a show that you sequenced yourself or with a little help from those that share sequences. Good Luck and keep working at it, I believe you'll finally get it, it just takes a wee bit of time. Edited February 26, 2016 by Orville messed up in # years doing this crazy light show stuff. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Arch Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Take Lightzilla up on his gracious offer as his sequences are amazing. Here's one from a few years ago. Scroll down aways till you find my video. It's like you're asking - I had a modified a WowLights setup, but I used Lightzilla's shared sequence to adapt to mine. If you want it, I could send my file to you. http://forums.lightorama.com/index.php?/topic/32944-christmas-this-year-by-tobymac-sequence/&page=1#entry303073 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capardo Posted February 26, 2016 Author Share Posted February 26, 2016 All, Thanks for taking the time to reply. There is a ton of wisdom and advice given above. And I am very appreciative. I am also very appreciative of the many sequences that I've asked for (and gotten). As well as the many links I've followed and read and looked at even more sequences. In particular, thanks OLD SARGE for the large group of sequences you sent me recently. I do apologize for the confusion in my original post. I thought I was being clear, but I guess not. The hazards of the Internet, I guess. So, let me give an example for Halloween..... Surely, someone out there has the Wowlights Halloween setup (2 8-channel large singing pumpkins, 2-3 channel small singing pumpkins, 5-1 channel tombstones, 2 1-channel strobe lights, and 2 1-channel flood lights) and has sequenced a song that is not on their website (like, say, "The Twilight Zone"). And they would be willing to share. This was all that I am asking. Is this a very specific request? Absolutely. Did I mean to upset or offend anyone with my request? Definitely not. I just happen to think there are some "old-timers" out there that just might have a sequence or two that meet this very specific request (or very similar) that could help some of us "newbies" out. If this request is too specific, then this thread will die a quick death! Which is really fine. :) It really was just an idea that popped into my head one afternoon. I just happen to think there are more folks out there like me who would very much appreciate and learn from these sequences. Again, I admit I could be very wrong. No problem at all! Chuck capardo@bellsouth.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Sarge Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 happy to help you out. Glad to see you got the ones I sent you. as I said... watch them with the .lee file I sent and copy paste the parts that will work for you. remember.. the .lee file is the visualizer file that I sent with them. If I missed attaching them let me know and I will attach them and send them to you . You still should have my e mail. open the sequence and then open the .lee file... I think you can figure it out from there.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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