manitoutheos Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Can somebody explain the difference between CCR / CCPs 3 vs. Holiday core smart / pixel led strip / ribbons 48 LED Or the likes of them. Not thinking of changing because they have an awsom product with great tech support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry72 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 CCR is basically just LOR's name for their smart strips, they are proprietary to LOR. The ones HC sells can be bought just about anywhere, Not to sure what chip LOR uses, but the strips from HC use the 2811, just like what is used in the pixel nodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrymac Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 May be a sensitive issue here since this is a LOR owned board. Maybe ask on one of the other boards?Enough to say they are two different company's with these items that are similar. Made by different manufactures but similar in function. Different companies, different prices etc. LOR products have consistently shown to be easier to use for the NON TECHIE and guaranteed to work first time with LOR software without a lot of background setup. H.C. is more in the DIY branch but also works with LOR software but MAY require a little more setup.Both good products with good customer service. You can't go wrong with LOR (just a bit more expensive up front). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticks4legs Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 CCR designed/tested and supported by LOR. HC is an assembled kit from multiple suppliers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOR Staff Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 As others have said, functionally they are going to do the same thing: Turn a particular pixel on at a particular color. Its what you don't see that is the difference. Sticking with LOR stuff from end to end means we can control the entire experience and we can help end to end. Our software and our hardware are always going to work together. If they don't I will fix it - or have to answer to Dan when he comes over to my desk with the 'Board of Education'. Of course we also have an excellent warranty on our hardware as well. We are here to answer your questions, and pride ourselves on what we hope is excellent service. I can't/won't answer that question for our competitors, so you will need to do your homework on that. Going with someone else's product will most likely save you a couple of dollars. However for those dollars you will need to also understand and learn the complexities of going with a second signalling system/network (DMX or E1.31) - as opposed to something you may already know: LOR. Should an issue occur with someone else's device, we can help but only up to the point where things leave our control. For example, if you are using someone else's DMX board and can't seem to get it to work, all I can do is ensure that our software is sending the DMX data properly. Once the data hits the other companies stuff my responsibility ends. If however you were using our product I could continue to troubleshoot all the way to the exact pixel that is not performing correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 LOR has a two-year warranty on their pixels and controllers. Ask HC if they'll match that warranty. And when they get finished laughing, ask them just how long THEIR warranty is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOR Staff Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Just to clarify, it's: 2 Years:All Commercial ControllersCosmic Color Ribbons + Controllers 1 Year:All others (Including Cosmic Color Bulbs and Cosmic Color Pixels) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 (edited) Oops - my bad. I thought LOR's warranty covered everything for 2 years. Odd that LOR would cover the most fragile element for two years (CCR) and the most rugged (CCB/CCP) for only one year. Edited November 13, 2015 by George Simmons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill P Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 'Board of Education'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry72 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I am on this board because i use LOR software to program. However i use DIY Hardware. What i can truly tell you is this, no matter what strips you use, understand that they are more fragile then pixel nodes. As an issue i have seen in the past, when you secure them, do not over tighten them, they can and will break. My opinion, never use zip ties, if yer ribbon moves around, the zip tie can cut through them. Seen it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I, on the other hand, use zip ties to hold ribbons in place everywhere. I learned my first year with CCRs not to over-tighten them. Pro tip: Wherever possible, mount ribbons on pixel mounting strips (using zip ties - sorry Jerry) from Boscoyo Studios. Best method I've ever seen anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry72 Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 I, on the other hand, use zip ties to hold ribbons in place everywhere. I learned my first year with CCRs not to over-tighten them.Pro tip: Wherever possible, mount ribbons on pixel mounting strips (using zip ties - sorry Jerry) from Boscoyo Studios. Best method I've ever seen anywhere.I went ahead and viewed your comment, I should have added that if you zip tie them to PVC. I do not know about zip tying them to the node strips. But i use the strips for my nodes and they do have better movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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