CCR alternate

[KevinHittle]

Good evening everyone!

 

I want to purchase a PIXEL 1 system and some LED strips from Ray Wu. I want to setup a 12 strand CCR like tree. I want to be able to buy a couple of sequences that I see around here..and then work on one or two of my own. I can't afford CCR (not to mention I am going to need a lot more CCR licenses...hehe). So I am going to buy the SD Pixel 1 system (I can get 12v or 5v) and 12 (Actually prob 16 in case of bad units) pixel strips from Ray Wu.

The actual question is which strip to buy...I need it to be like the CCR so the sequences I buy will run on them and I can add them into superstar.

 

Brian told me today "What you want is a ribbon that is 5 meters long, has 150 LEDs but only 50 pixels (the LEDs are assigned to pixels in groups of 3)"

 

I would really appreciate any help that you can give!!!

 

Thanks

 

Kevin

[LightsinMaine]

If you plan on buying sequences be sure to look at what you're buying first. Most sequences for "CCR tree" will be for 16 strips.

[KevinHittle]

Thanks...will do...Do you know about what strip is most like CCR?

 

Kev

[LOR Staff]

Thanks...will do...Do you know about what strip is most like CCR?

 

Kev

The CCR itself?

[KevinHittle]

Thanks for the reply Mike!!

 

I am just trying to find out which LED strip to purchase from Ray....I want one that is "Like" the LOR CCR...When chatting with Brian (Superstar) yesterday..he said if I am purchasing CCR sequences,  I would need to purchase a strip that is 5 meters long, has 150 LEDs but only 50 pixels (the LEDs are assigned to pixels in groups of 3). I read somewhere that the CCR is 30 LED/M with 10 controllable sections per metre.  (Maybe that is what 10ic /m stands for).

 

I was just hoping someone had done this before and see what strips they bought.

 

No sense in me just guessing..heh

 

Kev

Edited July 2, 2014 by KevinHittle

[Ron Boyd]

12v WS2812.

 

Be aware though, most of the sequences you see for sale, are created in Superstar. If your license for SS is not high enough for the sequence bought, then you'll not be able to use them. For the 12 and 16 Strip sequences, you'll need the 24 CCR license to be able to export it into S3

Edited July 2, 2014 by Ron Boyd

[indi]

Thanks for the reply Mike!!

 

I am just trying to find out which LED strip to purchase from Ray....I want one that is "Like" the LOR CCR...When chatting with Brian (Superstar) yesterday..he said if I am purchasing CCR sequences,  I would need to purchase a strip that is 5 meters long, has 150 LEDs but only 50 pixels (the LEDs are assigned to pixels in groups of 3). I read somewhere that the CCR is 30 LED/M with 10 controllable sections per metre.  (Maybe that is what 10ic /m stands for).

 

I was just hoping someone had done this before and see what strips they bought.

 

No sense in me just guessing..heh

 

Kev

KevinHittle:  I myself wanted to do the same thing, but after all the thoughts, I elected to go with the LOR CCP's (CCR). They cost more than Ray, but LOR's service is outstanding. I had one bad controller and one bad string. LOR replaced them in a short period of time, fast delivery and with a paid return label.  I didn't have to send them back to China. I can't say what Ray's policy is. Used the CCP's for a 24 leg pixel tree (about 12' tall), and used Superstar for the programming. But this is just my option and what I did. You know what they say about options.

[KevinHittle]

Ron:  You are right about that warning...I used Ge Color Effects pixels last year (combined with an e682) (Shows in my sig)...I got hooked using the superstar demo...I was amazed at what I could do with those lights....I was also surprised when i needed 8CCR license to export it to run in my show...LOL

 

So Indi...You purchased 12 CCP...and got 24 strips of lights basically (50 each)....You should be able to get some amazing detail with that...Were you able to purchase any sequences for your LOR pixels?

[KevinHittle]

FYI:  FastEddy over at AUSCHRISTMASLIGHTING thinks this is the closest to the CCR (According to a post):

 

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/5m-led-digital-strip-DC12V-input-WS2811IC-256-scale-10pcs-IC-and-30pcs-5050-SMD-RGB/701799_568458133.html

 

Superstar should work well with this...and I should be able to put a couple of purchased sequences on there...

[indi]

Ron:  You are right about that warning...I used Ge Color Effects pixels last year (combined with an e682) (Shows in my sig)...I got hooked using the superstar demo...I was amazed at what I could do with those lights....I was also surprised when i needed 8CCR license to export it to run in my show...LOL

 

So Indi...You purchased 12 CCP...and got 24 strips of lights basically (50 each)....You should be able to get some amazing detail with that...Were you able to purchase any sequences for your LOR pixels?

I bought some from Superstar. I also, got the 14" globe kit from Brain. Used it last year for the first time, and had a lot of commits on it. It really made my show. I sequenced all of my other songs myself for the show and the sequences that I bought, I made them as sub sequence in my regular sequence. All the Superstar sequencing that I have done, I use them as sub sequences. It works for me. I am not too smart on these things, so as I said, I went with LOR equipment. It is plug and play. This year I want to add a couple of starburst. With the help from Ron Boyd, I was able to adapter his starburst visualization to fit my needs. I have all the sub sequencing done (using Superstar), but I don't know if I will get the props done this years show. 

[LOR Staff]

Thanks for the reply Mike!!

 

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I was just hoping someone had done this before and see what strips they bought.

 

No sense in me just guessing..heh

 

Kev

 

You're welcome.  After all, why wouldn't I plug my employer's company's product on the company's forum, right?

[HiTechLights]

Right on DevMike!

 

---Michael

[HiTechLights]

FYI:  FastEddy over at AUSCHRISTMASLIGHTING thinks this is the closest to the CCR (According to a post):

 

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/5m-led-digital-strip-DC12V-input-WS2811IC-256-scale-10pcs-IC-and-30pcs-5050-SMD-RGB/701799_568458133.html

 

Superstar should work well with this...and I should be able to put a couple of purchased sequences on there...

 

These should work just fine.  This is as close to a CCR as you are going to get without buying the real thing. 

 

I think there's a misunderstanding however, in your realier post you said: "I can't afford CCR (not to mention I am going to need a lot more CCR licenses...hehe)."  The SuperStar CCR Licenses have absolutely NOTHING to do with how many CCRs or Flexible Ribbon-like CCR RGB strips you can control.  If you have the LOR ShowTime S3 Advanced Version you can control pretty much an unlimited amount of controllers, channels, and RGB devices.   The CCR Licenses with SuperStar have to do with the editing, creating, and exporting of sequences into the LOR ShowTime S3 software for the control of the lights via the sequences.

 

Bottom line is, if you buy those RGB flexible ribbon strips from Ray Wu and you plan on using SuperStar to edit, create, and/or export RGB sequences into the LOR ShowTime S3 software --- you still need to buy the appropriate CCR Licenses level, no matter if you are using the actual "CCR" product or not.  Just keep this in mind so you stay within your budget.

 

---Michael

[indi]

Ron:  You are right about that warning...I used Ge Color Effects pixels last year (combined with an e682) (Shows in my sig)...I got hooked using the superstar demo...I was amazed at what I could do with those lights....I was also surprised when i needed 8CCR license to export it to run in my show...LOL

 

So Indi...You purchased 12 CCP...and got 24 strips of lights basically (50 each)....You should be able to get some amazing detail with that...Were you able to purchase any sequences for your LOR pixels?

Sorry I didn't spot this before. No, I bought 6 CCP's and configured them in dual mode. This way they act like 12 controllers. Ran the strings from the controller to the top of the tree (25 pixels) the back down (25 pixels) ((50 pixels string))

[KevinHittle]

These should work just fine.  This is as close to a CCR as you are going to get without buying the real thing. 

 

I think there's a misunderstanding however, in your realier post you said: "I can't afford CCR (not to mention I am going to need a lot more CCR licenses...hehe)."  The SuperStar CCR Licenses have absolutely NOTHING to do with how many CCRs or Flexible Ribbon-like CCR RGB strips you can control.  If you have the LOR ShowTime S3 Advanced Version you can control pretty much an unlimited amount of controllers, channels, and RGB devices.   The CCR Licenses with SuperStar have to do with the editing, creating, and exporting of sequences into the LOR ShowTime S3 software for the control of the lights via the sequences.

 

Bottom line is, if you buy those RGB flexible ribbon strips from Ray Wu and you plan on using SuperStar to edit, create, and/or export RGB sequences into the LOR ShowTime S3 software --- you still need to buy the appropriate CCR Licenses level, no matter if you are using the actual "CCR" product or not.  Just keep this in mind so you stay within your budget.

 

---Michael

 

Right..I used the tag CCR because when I purchased my superstar licenses for my GECE pixels...the email said i had bought 8_CCR (worth)...It counted my pixels so I assumed that it just they sold them in CCR (number) increments.

And you are right...no matter what kind of pixels I have...it will count them out and have to spend that money...which surprised me last year...but LOR is worth it...SuperStar really rocks!!

 

Trust me...I love LOR...if money was no object...I would be getting some actual CCRs shipped today...they are gonna get a lot of my money this year anyway...

 

 

Kev

[KevinHittle]

BTW everyone...I hope I did step on anyone's toes asking about NON-LOR lighting...(got PM from user)

 

LOR is a great company...just for me this year...I cannot afford CCR ribbons...it is 3000.00 vs 800.00 (for me 2200.00 is A LOT of money) and then I still have to purchase superstar licenses...

 

Also, I was just following the forum guidelines:

 

Got a question about decorating your home or business, but don't know where to ask? What are Mini-Trees, Mega Trees, Leaping arches? Ask about those and more here in this forum.

If you are listing something for sale, we ask that you please use The Coffee Shop.

Questions about other lighting technologies should go here as well.

 

I always think of this place as a community (I used to just lurk)...I wasn't really asking for LOR input directly...hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings over that...

 

Kev

[sax]

The strip you have posted is what I bought and it looks similar to CCRs (I have both).

Be aware that Ray has a section for sans devices here:http://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Pixels-for-Sandevices-s-E682-controllers/701799_210241239.html

This section includes the ends already soldered. And is part of the deal he has with sans. As close to plug and play as you can get.

For the strips to look like CCRs you will need the 12v version as it takes 3 LEDs and makes one pixel. 5v versions is one to one usually...so better resolution.

Never had an issue with ray's merchandise. I read every now and then how this or that was broke or not working. I keep waiting but I never had a problem. I do have spares for my power supplies and dmx controllers as well as my LOR controllers (save the CCRs) but that is just good practice. I don't think I would buy 5 extra ribbons just because they are coming from Ray/china. I would love to have spares but I just haven't seen those failure rates. And I bet Ray would set things right if something arrives broken. That only makes strong business sense for any company.

As a last note...don't forget to send Ray a message for shipping. It will be way less and he always upgrades to fedex for that quoted price he will give you. I always ask for DHL as FedEx seems to hold packages a couple weeks with an explanation of them being swamped. DHL has always been 3 days from china to Portland for me. Ray takes about 5 days so it is usually 8 days for me.

[HiTechLights]

Kev, don't worry about it!  This forum is just another thing that makes LOR such a great company.  We all welcome your questions and hope that our input have helped you with your project and staying within your project's budget.

 

---Michael

[godman]

What kind of controller would be best to use with the Strips from Ray?

[KStatefan]

What kind of controller would be best to use with the Strips from Ray?

 

I do not think there is one best.  Use whatever fits your needs.