Cosmic Color Floods

[caniac]

I am looking at adding 2-4 of these devices to my show this year, it is my understanding that they are "plug and play".  Has anyone worked with these?  Do you just add them as a standard LOR controller?

[bisquit476]

Not to change subjects or hijack the thread, but is that you with the cup?

[Don]

The CCF's come with a CCF controller and your choice of 1 or 2 flood heads.

 

If you get 2 flood heads then you would need to set it up as follows:

In the Sequence Editor 2 RGB channels assigned to circuits 1,2,3 and 6,7,8

Four channels would be 4,5 and 9,10.

 

The 4/5 and 9/10 channels control the on/off strobe ability of the flood lights. (And honestly, the documentation is going to explain much better than I ever could.)

 

My CCF's are offsite in storage, so I can't hook one up to the computer to tell you how it's configured in the HWU. I'd suspect this is in the docs as well.

 

As for how they look? Great! (At least in my opinion.) Used 3 heads on the house last year, and I think it turned out quite nicely.

[caniac]

Not to change subjects or hijack the thread, but is that you with the cup?

Yes it is, wasn't sure if I was gonna go that day but then ask myself "how many opportunities in my life time will I have to do that".  I am a full season ticket holder, the year they won it all the had one day that we could have our picture taken with it and/or kiss it!!

[Big Sanch Mafia]

are the floods typically mounted from the top.. lest say under your eaves and pointed down towards the ground? or the opposite, mounted on the ground and pointing up towards the sky?

 

Thanks

[Don]

are the floods typically mounted from the top.. lest say under your eaves and pointed down towards the ground? or the opposite, mounted on the ground and pointing up towards the sky?

 

Thanks

I've seen people use the CCF's in both ways you describe. I think it's going to boil down to a matter of personal preference.

[PKingRoch]

I've seen people use the CCF's in both ways you describe. I think it's going to boil down to a matter of personal preference.

 

And the amount of snow you get.  I originally had my floods pointed up.   Forgot about the snow.

[Big Sanch Mafia]

And the amount of snow you get.  I originally had my floods pointed up.   Forgot about the snow.

haha.. well im in Cali so I wont have to worry about the snow

[brianfox]

I used 20 LOR Cosmic Color flood heads in my display in 2012.  In 2010-2011, I used DIY devices that kept giving me problems.  I decided to switch to LOR for a few reasons:

1) I was able to buy them during the Summer sale at a big discount

2) LOR stands behind their products

3) I can always sell them later on for about the same price I purchased them

 

LOR floods are good, but not great if you plan to only use a couple.  They are only 3W each head, and it is my opinion that the light will wash out on a large surface.  My application aims each flood head DIRECTLY at the house - no angles here.  This is very different than pointing it up frm the ground or down from the eaves.  The reasin I did it this way is so I could have perfect color separation between flood heads.  You can see what I mean in one of my

.  At about :50 and 1:20 you will see how good the color separation can be.

I mount these flood heads vertically.  The color separation is spectacular along the long edge fo the flood head.  Across the short ends, it sucks.  You can see this int he video, around :50.  Look where the top of the house is, say red and the bottom is blue.  You will see a purple blur between.  The LOR flood heads have no way to prevent this.  It's because they have three RGB clusters spaced apart from each other.  However, hotspots are nearly nonexistent with these floods.

 

NOTE: LOR just introduced a new version of the flood head that is 10W and smaller.  This was introduced at a trade show.  No ides when they will go on sale.  These floods are brighter, and will offer perfect color separation in the X and Y axis.  The downside is that they will be much worse than the original floods for washing the side of a house, as they appear to cast a smaller area of light.  I think the new floods (being brighter) may result in hotspots.

[TonyD]

I used 20 LOR Cosmic Color flood heads in my display in 2012.  In 2010-2011, I used DIY devices that kept giving me problems.  I decided to switch to LOR for a few reasons:

1) I was able to buy them during the Summer sale at a big discount

2) LOR stands behind their products

3) I can always sell them later on for about the same price I purchased them

 

LOR floods are good, but not great if you plan to only use a couple.  They are only 3W each head, and it is my opinion that the light will wash out on a large surface.  My application aims each flood head DIRECTLY at the house - no angles here.  This is very different than pointing it up frm the ground or down from the eaves.  The reasin I did it this way is so I could have perfect color separation between flood heads.  You can see what I mean in one of my

.  At about :50 and 1:20 you will see how good the color separation can be.

I mount these flood heads vertically.  The color separation is spectacular along the long edge fo the flood head.  Across the short ends, it sucks.  You can see this int he video, around :50.  Look where the top of the house is, say red and the bottom is blue.  You will see a purple blur between.  The LOR flood heads have no way to prevent this.  It's because they have three RGB clusters spaced apart from each other.  However, hotspots are nearly nonexistent with these floods.

 

NOTE: LOR just introduced a new version of the flood head that is 10W and smaller.  This was introduced at a trade show.  No ides when they will go on sale.  These floods are brighter, and will offer perfect color separation in the X and Y axis.  The downside is that they will be much worse than the original floods for washing the side of a house, as they appear to cast a smaller area of light.  I think the new floods (being brighter) may result in hotspots.

 

Wow that looks great. How far from the walls were the floods positioned?

[LightORamaJohn]

The current CCF flood heads are about 18W each, but we have found that this is just not enough. We are working on a new head that is 50W. Because of this both the flood head and controller are new. We will keep the 5 flood head control channels and their functions identical. We are hoping that we can keep the price for two new flood heads close to the current two flood head system, but we don't have manufacturing quantity quotes yet.

[Big Sanch Mafia]

I used 20 LOR Cosmic Color flood heads in my display in 2012.  In 2010-2011, I used DIY devices that kept giving me problems.  I decided to switch to LOR for a few reasons:

1) I was able to buy them during the Summer sale at a big discount

2) LOR stands behind their products

3) I can always sell them later on for about the same price I purchased them

 

LOR floods are good, but not great if you plan to only use a couple.  They are only 3W each head, and it is my opinion that the light will wash out on a large surface.  My application aims each flood head DIRECTLY at the house - no angles here.  This is very different than pointing it up frm the ground or down from the eaves.  The reasin I did it this way is so I could have perfect color separation between flood heads.  You can see what I mean in one of my

.  At about :50 and 1:20 you will see how good the color separation can be.

I mount these flood heads vertically.  The color separation is spectacular along the long edge fo the flood head.  Across the short ends, it sucks.  You can see this int he video, around :50.  Look where the top of the house is, say red and the bottom is blue.  You will see a purple blur between.  The LOR flood heads have no way to prevent this.  It's because they have three RGB clusters spaced apart from each other.  However, hotspots are nearly nonexistent with these floods.

 

NOTE: LOR just introduced a new version of the flood head that is 10W and smaller.  This was introduced at a trade show.  No ides when they will go on sale.  These floods are brighter, and will offer perfect color separation in the X and Y axis.  The downside is that they will be much worse than the original floods for washing the side of a house, as they appear to cast a smaller area of light.  I think the new floods (being brighter) may result in hotspots.

Unless you pointed it out, most wouldn't realize the difference. you have alot in your display so most ppl are trying to soak in as much as they can.. looks really awesome. when you say you are mounting them vertically, how or to what are you mounting them to? and about how far apart is each flood unit. I really like when you had all the different colors going..like a rainbow.

[brianfox]

Unless you pointed it out, most wouldn't realize the difference. you have alot in your display so most ppl are trying to soak in as much as they can.. looks really awesome. when you say you are mounting them vertically, how or to what are you mounting them to? and about how far apart is each flood unit. I really like when you had all the different colors going..like a rainbow.

The floods are mounted at varying distances from the walls.  I had to pull out the calculator and do some math...

What I did was to first place the flood 1 foot from a white wall and measure the spread of the light that was cast.  I then moved the flood 2 feet from the wall and measured the now larger spread.  With this, I could calculate the exact spread the flood would cast on a wall at any distance.

 

I then measured the front of my house and divided it into segments.  Take my large garage for instance.  I decided to divide it into 4 equal sections.  I took the width of those sections and plugged it into the formula that I created in the previous paragraph, and out popped the distance the floods needed to be from the garage.

 

In order to mount the floods, I adhered them to furring strips and built stands.  For the sloping roofs, I had to make PVC stands.  believe me, these stands are ugly and thrown together, but they held up for the season.

 

The floods ended up being between 4 and 6 ft from the walls.  If I wanted to wash the house with, say, just 6 floods, I would have had to mount them on the ground and angled up.  I think it would have looked awful.  22 floods look great, but the price...  The reason I went with LOR is that if I ever decide to pack it up, I know I can sell them for not much less than I bought them for.  Can't say that for the other brands.