scubado Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I'm starting on a new song and thought I'd try the Beat Wizzard for the first time. My question is; When playing the music at 1/2 speed, is the speed/quality of the sound related to the grid at initial setup of the song? For me, it seems to be the case. The song setup with the beat wizzard sounds like crap at 1/2 speed, even if I change to a .05 grid that I'm used to. I created a new sequence using same song using .05 grid and sound is what I expect for 1/2 speed. Has anybody run into this and have some suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubado Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 Looks like I found a solution to my problem, set the song up first using a .05 grid, then use the beat wizzard. I knew I would find a solution on my own, but wanted to post it in case somebody new might have an issue and/or something LOR needs to look into. Also open for discussion or feel like poking me for posting this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I have NEVER known any members on this forum to poke fun at some one for an inadvernt post where they came up with the answer on their own...Never Ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Don Gillespie Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Looks like I found a solution to my problem, set the song up first using a .05 grid, then use the beat wizzard. I knew I would find a solution on my own, but wanted to post it in case somebody new might have an issue and/or something LOR needs to look into. Also open for discussion or feel like poking me for posting this thread Are you and Jim related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubado Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 Are you and Jim related Only by name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james campbell Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I have NEVER known any members on this forum to poke fun at some one for an inadvernt post where they came up with the answer on their own...Never Ever... then why have I often heard of the The Jim s Winder School of self solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magish01 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's the Jimswinder (falling) tree of knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubado Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 I have NEVER known any members on this forum to poke fun at some one for an inadvernt post where they came up with the answer on their own...Never Ever... Nice job hi-jacking the poking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klayfish Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Guess I'll have to try it myself, but what does the grid look like if you use both .05 and the beat wizard? Does it make it hard to differentiate where the beat wizard picked out timings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubado Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 In the upper right corner you can pick which grid is showing. Switching grids doesn't effect the timings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 (edited) Switching grids doesn't effect the timings. I'm not completely sure what you're trying to say here Jim, but that sentence, as written, is incorrect. Switching grids DOES indeed affect the timing marks. (That's the whole reason for using different grids.) But switching timing grids has no effect on any lighting commands that have already been sequenced. Edited March 20, 2013 by George Simmons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubado Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Thanks George, that's what I was trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I am not sure that I understand the question, but the audio quality of the song is unrelated to timing marks in the sequence grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klayfish Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I'm not completely sure what you're trying to say here Jim, but that sentence, as written,is incorrect.Switching grids DOES indeed affect the timing marks. (That's the whole reason for using different grids.) But switching timing grids has no effect on any lighting commands that have already been sequenced.Awesome, learned something new. I'll have to try laying down a .05 grid in addition to the beat wizard. I'm using the wizard for the first time, only my second song ever. While it captured the beat, there are a lot of marks I would have wanted in mid-beat, and I've been trying to add them manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Awesome, learned something new. I'll have to try laying down a .05 grid in addition to the beat wizard. I'm using the wizard for the first time, only my second song ever. While it captured the beat, there are a lot of marks I would have wanted in mid-beat, and I've been trying to add them manually. Go back to the Beat Wizard dialog box and select 2x faster than the beat and it will create a timing grid for the half-beats. Or, you can select a cell, right click the mouse and go down and select "subdivide timings". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubado Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 I am not sure that I understand the question, but the audio quality of the song is unrelated to timing marks in the sequence grid.Here's my limited experience: If I create a new song and use the beat wizzard first, when I playback the song at 1/2 speed it sounds like crap. If I create a new song using a .05 grid and then use the beat wizzard, then playing at 1/2 speed is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I can't relate to your issue Jim because I never use fixed timing grids. But I also sometimes experience a crappy playback audio when using half-speed. I almost always have play visible screen selected, and I've found that moving the time line a little either way will fix the sound. In past threads regarding this, people have speculated it has to do with using MP3 instead of .wav. I've sometimes thought about trying a wav file to see if it still happens, but it's never bugged me enough to actually do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klayfish Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Go back to the Beat Wizard dialog box and select 2x faster than the beat and it will create a timing grid for the half-beats. Or, you can select a cell, right click the mouse and go down and select "subdivide timings". I figured out the subdivide timings part when I was messing around one day. Thanks for the tip on the 2x faster grid. I figured out how to get that Beat Wizard dialog box to open so I can do that. But if I wanted to try laying down a .05 grid in addition to the beat wizard grid, how do I do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 In the sequence editor, go to the right-hand side of the tool bar and click on the "Timings" button. Then scroll down to the "Add New Fixed Grid" option and click it. Then follow the prompts. Or, go to TOOLS > BEAT WIZARD and choose "New Fixed Grid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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