CCR Receiving Signals From ?

[Linda McDonald]

I have 5 LOR controllers and 2 CCR's. LOR 1, 2 and CCR 3,4 and LOR 5, 6, 7. I have one song on the show. There are NO references to Unit 3. Why is my CCR 3 flashing lights on and off?

CCR 3 and 4 are sharing an electrical outlet with the computer that is running the show.

Linda

[George Simmons]

Sounds very similar to something I have going on.

I've got four CCRs attached to the garage in two different networks. 3 of those CCRs (both networks) will occasionally turn on the second pixel to green. Where is that coming from? At the same time one spoke of my pinwheels on the garage will sometimes light up, and sometimes one of two different trees along the driveway. Two different networks, five separate controllers.

When LOR is running - either the sequence editor or the show player - those channels will stay on until another command comes along. (Hours in the case of the SE if it's idle) Even with no LOR program running - nothing - those channels will occasionally come on, stay on for four seconds and shut off. This occurs randomly, sometimes only a couple minutes apart. Doesn't stop until I turn the PC off.

Could this be related to the USB hub? What in my PC other than LOR would send a signal over those comm ports to be received by those different controllers?

[Val Bennett]

I also am having similar problems. CCR pixels seem to get "hung-up" and stay on after they are turned on, and turn off again when that part of the CCRibbon gets another command. I have checked to make sure the controllers are in "Normal" mode not "Legacy", and I have reset my controllers. I also have some pixels stay on all night and day - long after the show has shut down; some even flashing. At other times, some of the pixels do not come on at all when the sequence tells them to. Very strange, never had this problem the last 2 years.

I have one network with 6 CCR's, one with 4 CCR's, and a third network with 14 each 16-channel controllers. The CCR network speed settings are "fast". I am also using one powered hub to send out all three networks. One of the network Cat 5 cables may be a bit over 100 feet before it gets to the first controller, but I doubt this would be the cause. I am going to insert another controller closer to the computer and test it out, however.

I would be surprised in Linda's case if sharing the computer's electrical is a problem.

[wnkrwnkr]

I had a similar problem during my Halloween show. Mine was I would have one of my props just come on for a second or less.. Most people did notice it or if they did, they thought it was part of the show. I went so far as to redo one song thinking it was in the grid that I was using. No luck!! It’s like a feed back or crossover.. Was using 5 LOR controllers

Now I have 5 CCP set up with 8 singing trees on two LOR controllers that I have entered in a of Festival of Lights Parade . Yesterday when testing it again, the singing trees would not sink with the music. when I removed the CCP’s and everything worked fine. I put the CCP’s on their own network. I did a test and got the same results. So I started taking the CCPs off one at a time. I finally got the singing trees and 3 CCPs to work together. I don’t understand why!!! help

It would be a big deal but the parade is tonight!! What I have set up will work but not as nice as I would like it to be.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks

Tom

[rwertz]

wnkrwnkr, it sounds like this is a parade float. I don’t know the specifics. But if you are running LOR from a generator, it can be troublesome.

Also, to avoid derailing this thread you should start a new topic

[wnkrwnkr]

Not trying to derail any thing here... this is a wondeful place for information. just so everyone knows it didnt make any differance if I was running the program on my shop power or a generator.. I still had the same problem...

thanks

[George Simmons]

UPDATE

Upon further inspection, it turns out that all the various channels that come on ARE all on the same network - both conventional controllers and CCRs. When I disconnect the network at the USB485 the activity stops. So at least it's not something in the garage interfering. If I was giving advice it would be to check the comm cables, so tomorrow when it gets a tad warmer that's what I'll do.

Further updates on this story as details come in...

[George Simmons]

UPDATE #2

Changed the comm cable running to the garage this afternoon and since then haven't seen one blip.

[PKingRoch]

So this is was an issue of the USB cable? I'm getting occasional blips on my CCR network as well when nothing is running. I'm using the USB cable supplied with the USB 485 adapter that is shielded.

[David Rise]

Not sure if this will help you folks or not. My #3 CCR was running a sequence and had random flashes mixed in. I double checked the sequence looking for any type of stray fade or on that I might have missed and found nothing.

My solution was to use the HW and I found that one CCR control ID mode was set to legacy. I reset it to normal and it started functioning normally again. It probably changed after I changed the unit ID.

Anyhow, it's step 5 in the quick setup.

Hope it helps.

[PKingRoch]

Actually, in my case, everything was working without a hitch until this morning when we noticed one CCR acting up. I reset the controller, and also rechecked the hardware configuration and the problem still exists; the CCR is randomly turning on pixels. The pixels are dim and green, and there doesn't appear to be any pattern. I guess a support call is in order if no one else has seen this.

[Val Bennett]

PKingRoch - I have checked for legacy vs. normal mode, reset all CCR controllers twice, checked all my sequences for any unwanted or misplaced data, and I am still having the same problem as you are - except as well as random pixels staying on, some of them don't come on at all when they should, in a random fashion as well. All 14 of my LOR 16-channel controllers are working flawlessly. Maybe I need to replace the comm (ethernet) cable on the CCR networks as I think George Simmons did. I was also hoping that someone from LOR would jump in to this conversation by now. If they don't very soon, I will also need to call or start a ticket as well.

[Linda McDonald]

Yes, one controller got set to Legacy mode. Changed it to normal and all my problems went away.