LightsinMaine Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I have to say it still surprises me that controllers sell for more than retail on Ebay. I imagine it's mostly newbies not knowing where to buy the controllers in the first place. Note to all newbies: You CAN buy direct from LOR cheaper than on Ebay. And if LOR is out of stock try a LOR factory partner first to see if they have anything in stock. Save yourselves some money!!This may be someone in here, I am not sure (either way doesn't matter). If I was a newbie (or an LOR user period) I wouldn't pay retail for used controllers that have no warranty! Just my 2 cents.... take it for what it's worthhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/300788612403?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I have to say it still surprises me that controllers sell for more than retail on Ebay. I imagine it's mostly newbies not knowing where to buy the controllers in the first place. Note to all newbies: You CAN buy direct from LOR cheaper than on Ebay. And if LOR is out of stock try a LOR factory partner first to see if they have anything in stock. Save yourselves some money!!This may be someone in here, I am not sure (either way doesn't matter). If I was a newbie (or an LOR user period) I wouldn't pay retail for used controllers that have no warranty! Just my 2 cents.... take it for what it's worthhttp://www.ebay.com/...984.m1423.l2649Well let me tell you something apparently you ARE NOT aware of, if you buy a USED controller and it has problems, LOR will still repair and fix it for a usually a small fee, or they will replace it at a certain percentage of replacement cost if it couldn't be repaired. So warranties may be good for brand new controllers, but for used ones, this is what sets LOR and their controllers above the rest.I bought a used controller, but I did get it cheaper than "ebay's pricing", which I find e-bay users the most horrendous PRICE GOUGERS out there on SPECIFIC items sold on there. And why I don't usually buy from e-bay unless it's a buy it now and the price is decent.But LOR wether used or new equipment has the best repair and service out there, bar none! And even if bought used, you can still get help from LOR and other users here on what to look for or repair if your used controller may come up with any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsinMaine Posted October 10, 2012 Author Share Posted October 10, 2012 actually Orville I am quite aware of LOR and their support and repairs (don't know why you ASSUME I am not aware of it). My point was not to say that you shouldn't buy on Ebay (there are a few deals to be had sometimes when buying equipment - few and far between)...... My point is you shouldn't pay anywhere near retail for used controllers on Ebay. Yes you can buy used controllers (i've done so in the past myself) and get it repaired if something happens (and pay a small fee). But my point was, why would you buy from Ebay, Pay retail and not get a warranty? Onl;y good deal for controllers on Ebay is like you said, a buy it now under retail price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I assume that naive buyers are only aware of the price of Showtime controllers (~$340) so anything less than that for a "LOR Controller" seems like a deal. Anybody care to admit that they entered the hobby via that route, only to realize later that they over-paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wbottomley Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 I assume that naive buyers are only aware of the price of Showtime controllers (~$340) so anything less than that for a "LOR Controller" seems like a deal.Anybody care to admit that they entered the hobby via that route, only to realize later that they over-paid? +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDOVEL Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 Humm... Buy controllers when on sale from LOR, then sell then on eBay for double the price... use that to buy more controllers and lights!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Young Posted October 10, 2012 Share Posted October 10, 2012 now you figured it out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hamilton Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 yea I noticed this unusual pricing on eBay when I was putting together my stuff to sell last week. However, I rather take a lower price and sell to a forum user than to sell to a total unknown person on eBay. Folks on here are pretty smart, but I wonder about who are the people buying these on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMaris Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 The buyers determine the final price on Ebay.How is someone a price gouger if people pay over retail?And before you think or say it, I have not sold any LOR products on Ebay. But when the time comes, I look forward to making money on my sales... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shubb Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) I have sold some controllers on eBay and the prices did get run up pretty fast. Most of the time over retail.The buyer told me the reason was he bought from me was he could get it faster. Most people know what they cost and where to get them, but will pay more to get it quicker.Scott Edited October 12, 2012 by Shubb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The buyer told me the reason was he bought from me was he could get it faster. Most people know what they cost and where to get them, but will pay more to get it quicker Hmm. I should raise my prices then. (And yes, I'm kidding everyone.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digdeepfundraising Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 here in the UK someone put one on ebay for £375 thats $604 now thats a rip off i get mine direct from lor with postage and import tax for around $340http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280982564998?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The buyers determine the final price on Ebay.How is someone a price gouger if people pay over retail?And before you think or say it, I have not sold any LOR products on Ebay.But when the time comes, I look forward to making money on my sales...When I am REFERENCING a PRICE GOUGER, that is someone {SELLER, not a buyer/bidder} that has their price set way above the real retail price. I have seen blowmolds I can buy at K-Mart BRAND NEW for $19.95¢ have a starting price of $125.00 on ebay. That IS what I refer to when I say there ARE PRICE GOUGERS on ebay. What else could you call it when an item is priced anywhere from 2 to as much as 4 or 5 times higher for a USED ITEM that can be bought NEW for a LOT LESS money?If a bidder puts a higer bid than retail, that's the bidders own fault and no, I DO NOT consider that price gouging.However, What I do consider PRICE GOUGING is when the seller is posting a severely over-inflated, ballooned price that is anywhere from 2 to 5 times higher than the regular retail going price. This is why if I *DO NOT* bid on some things on ebay, I look up the retail going price, and will only bid close to that price point, NOT over it, unlike some bidders do because they either have no clue to the regular retail price or just want the item, no matter what they pay for it.Hopefully that explains the difference between what a price gouger is vs someone bidding it up higher than it really should go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryM Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 If someone is willing to pay a certain price for something, how is that price gouging? Why WOULDN'T you try to get as much money as possible for something you sell? And if it doesn't sell..then gee, the price will come down. And if someone fails to do their homework, or just decides they want something and are willing to pay 5x the price they can get it somewhere..I say.."oh well..have at it.."If you're willing to pay me 300 bucks for a controller, I'm sure as hell NOT going to say "no, I'm charging you too much, and even though you're willing to pay that, its just not fair..you should have done a little more research and checked prices"Its a free enterprise system..are you suggesting people NOT be allowed to sell an item for as much as they can get for it?Caveat Emptor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orville Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 (edited) If someone is willing to pay a certain price for something, how is that price gouging? Why WOULDN'T you try to get as much money as possible for something you sell? And if it doesn't sell..then gee, the price will come down. And if someone fails to do their homework, or just decides they want something and are willing to pay 5x the price they can get it somewhere..I say.."oh well..have at it.."If you're willing to pay me 300 bucks for a controller, I'm sure as hell NOT going to say "no, I'm charging you too much, and even though you're willing to pay that, its just not fair..you should have done a little more research and checked prices"Its a free enterprise system..are you suggesting people NOT be allowed to sell an item for as much as they can get for it?Caveat Emptor.I view this with the same disdain as COMMERCIAL RETAILERS price gouging for neccessities after a hurricane, like propane fuel for your grill, flashlights and batteries, even food at the local grocery stores. If it's ILLEGAL for a retailer to price gouge, it should be the same anywhere else for pricing something far above retail prices, especially for a ***USED*** item.I blame the seller for price gouging and thought that was made quite clear.If someone bids it up, that's the bidders own fault for NOT being informed or doing research before doing so. But even though it's against ebay policy, sometimes I do have to wonder if the sellers have someone{a friend} bidding it up, or even themselves using a different acount do this to drive the price up by "over" bidding on their own item just to get more than it's really worth. Edited October 12, 2012 by Orville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryM Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Wait..you're going to compare someone trying to sell you a gallon of gas for 5 times average price in the middle of a natural disaster with someone selling an item for a ridiculously high price on ebay? There's no comparison there....I'm NOT saying asking ridiculously high prices should allowable for gas, food, etc in times of a natural disaster or shortage...big difference between that example, and ebay.WHY again should it be illegal for me to sell an item i own for as high a price as I want? No one has to buy it. And I understand exactly what you are saying, but you're point about bidders bidding up the price just further makes my point. IF someone wants something, and is willing to pay a certain price for it, then let them.And who is going to regulate those prices and decide whats a fair price? I'll go put a controller up on ebay right now for 600 dollars. Guess what..it won't sell. So why again do we need to regulate it or make it illegal for me to ask for 600 dollars for that item?The difference here is you want people to be protected from their own stupidity, naivete, or greed...I don't see a need for such protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Big difference between charging excessive amounts for something that is a necessity and not available anywhere else (hurricane survival stuff, which could quite literally be a life sustaining item) and somebody making more money off somebody choosing to buy a non-essential item and voluntarily choosing to pay more for it despite it being available elsewhere, probably at a lower price (and if the buyer is naive to that, that is their own fault). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMaris Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 When I am REFERENCING a PRICE GOUGER, that is someone {SELLER, not a buyer/bidder} that has their price set way above the real retail price. I have seen blowmolds I can buy at K-Mart BRAND NEW for $19.95¢ have a starting price of $125.00 on ebay. That IS what I refer to when I say there ARE PRICE GOUGERS on ebay. What else could you call it when an item is priced anywhere from 2 to as much as 4 or 5 times higher for a USED ITEM that can be bought NEW for a LOT LESS money?If a bidder puts a higer bid than retail, that's the bidders own fault and no, I DO NOT consider that price gouging.However, What I do consider PRICE GOUGING is when the seller is posting a severely over-inflated, ballooned price that is anywhere from 2 to 5 times higher than the regular retail going price. This is why if I *DO NOT* bid on some things on ebay, I look up the retail going price, and will only bid close to that price point, NOT over it, unlike some bidders do because they either have no clue to the regular retail price or just want the item, no matter what they pay for it.Hopefully that explains the difference between what a price gouger is vs someone bidding it up higher than it really should go for.That is different. There are definitely many of the people you describe, on Ebay.a good example is a guy selling Phillips 42 inch snowflakes that sell at Target for 24.95, for a buy it now of 79.95. He scratched the price right off the box. Funny thing is I have emailed him repeatedly, asking him if the snowflakes are the same as the ones at Target, and he never responds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wbottomley Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Hmm. I should raise my prices then. (And yes, I'm kidding everyone.)As much as they are going for.... I don't see why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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