Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 I am working on a new squence and just discovered that you don't have the play the entire song every time. I am sequencing/editing and playing just the visible portion of the song until i get it like I want it and then scrolling on to another section. This has been much easier and I don't get nearly as tired of the song.Here is the problem/question. when I play the segment, it is squenced perfectly (or as close as my abilites allow) but when I play the entire squence it appears out of synch. then I go back to that section and play the visible screen at it is fine.Is this something that happens regularly or am I most likely doing something wrong?I am new to this so it is very possible that I am missing something or omitting a step in the process.I haven't tested the sequence on my lights, just the animation window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 and playing the full sequence, it doesn't play all the way to the end. I have a big finish that plays perfectly on viible screen but the song cuts short when playing full sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 967andy wrote: I am working on a new squence and just discovered that you don't have the play the entire song every time. I am sequencing/editing and playing just the visible portion of the song until i get it like I want it and then scrolling on to another section. This has been much easier and I don't get nearly as tired of the song.Here is the problem/question. when I play the segment, it is squenced perfectly (or as close as my abilites allow) but when I play the entire squence it appears out of synch. then I go back to that section and play the visible screen at it is fine.Is this something that happens regularly or am I most likely doing something wrong?I am new to this so it is very possible that I am missing something or omitting a step in the process.I haven't tested the sequence on my lights, just the animation window.Hey Andy,I think you are seeing what some of use see...as you play the whole sequence in the editor, the vertical bar hangs for a few seconds then it catches up. This will probably be fixed in LORII. If/When you have lights hooked up and your are actually running a show, the sequence you built screen by screen will run like you designed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 thanks, I am going to test it with the lights tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2005 Share Posted December 24, 2005 It cuts off the end of the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 I believe that's because the length of your audio file and the length of your lighting sequence don't match. I don't recall the solution (you might find it in another LOR forum topic) ... but that's the area I'd been looking to modify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 If the time is off by that much then I would guess the file is variable bit rate. You should check that out and if so convert it to fixed bit rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Share Posted December 25, 2005 Okay, how do i do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 967andy wrote: Okay, how do i do that?I am not sure. Will get back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 BUMP!How are we coming on my answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 i'm gonna take a complete stab in the dark here, as i have NO experience with LOR (yet)... but i'm assuming you're playing an mp3? If Dan says it might be caused from a variable bit rate file, then why don't you convert it to wav and re-encode it using a set bit rate (160, 192, 256..etc)Colin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 I'm still new at this and learning so much every day. But I'm willing to take a stab here.Looking at the length of music you are playing, let's say 4:05 minutes to play the whole song. Is the sequence for the song/music as least 4:05 minutes?My first time messing with sequencing was oops, my sequencing display was shorter than the full length of the music mapped to it.I know that sounds too simple to goof up but I admit, I did it.Anyway, it's something to look at.Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 967andy wrote: BUMP!OK,, you woke me up. If you can, send the MP3 file to info@lightorama.com. I looked around for a free MP3 editor but I am not too good at finding free stuff. If you send it to me I will check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 UPDATE!Andy sent me the MP3 and I must say it was way way way off in the Sequence Editor...Not Andy's work but the Sequence Editor's Visible Screen vs Entire Sequence. I re-encoded it without making any changes, same bit rate and it because 1 meg larger so my guess is that it was variable bit rate. The strange thing was the play time difference. When I hover the mouse over an MP3 file it gives a play time. That play time changed by 20 seconds with the re-encoded file.I think that it will work OK now BUT the work Andy put into the sequence is pretty lost. Sorry:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Well, I am just glad it wasn't operator error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 How do I prevent this from happening again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Share Posted December 29, 2005 Maybe i should give more detail. I downloaded a free program to convert my audio files to MP3 because for some reason my software doesn't recognize an audio file from a CD. Like if I rip a CD using Windows Media player, I can't open that song using LOR, it doesn't recognize it or show it in the window so that I can open it when making a new squence. If I convert it to MP3, the squencing editor recognizes it just fine. I better double check and see if there is a setting on the conversion program for varible or fixed bit rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Andy, here's what I do. It may not be the easiest but it works for me. I rip the cd with windows media player then find the folder with the music and minimize it. The I open the sequence editor, click on new file --> new musical sequence. When the window comes up with "Open Audio File", I click on the up one level tab. The I open the "Audio" file foe LOR. Bring your music folder back up and copy and paste the music to the LOR audio file. That puts the music where you want it. When you go back to work on the sequences, in the open audio file, type *wma in the file name box and the wma files will show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2005 Share Posted December 31, 2005 Dan,How about another feature request. I think you can detect if you've got a VBR or CBR audio file programtically using the media player API. I'd suggest checking that when the audio file is picked or associated with a sequence. If it is variable rate, either don't let them use it or give a really big warning.David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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