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What's the difference between LOR Partner and LOR Partner at the bottom of the board? Both of them are in red. And... don't forget Member and Member in green too.

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Light-O-Rama has been receiving and increasing number of complaints that those with the "Beta Tester" title were being "Rude" and treating them unfairly.

Thus the decision was made to remove any/all references to "Beta Tester" in the titles.

The duplicate member groups are a result of the software platform the forums currently utilize.

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Since we can't edit.

I guess this is the new Light-O-Rama Support Forums 2.0?

Somehow I'm reminded of Planet Christmas all over again? deja vu I suppose.

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Donny M. Carter

So it looks like your not BLUE anymore buddy! :shock:

Here, I fixed it for you wbottomley!

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Guest wbottomley

Thank you Donny.

Many will look like that if they expect an answer out of me anytime soon unless I know how the person is.

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LORAdmin wrote:

Light-O-Rama has been receiving and increasing number of complaints that those with the "Beta Tester" title were being "Rude" and treating them unfairly.

Thus the decision was made to remove any/all references to "Beta Tester" in the titles.

The duplicate member groups are a result of the software platform the forums currently utilize.

The logic here makes no sense. Its being assumed that:

1. only beta testers are being "rude" or acting inappropriately in the forums.

2. taking away a "title" will change that, if one actually believes the silliness of assumption number 1.

I've seen a lot of inappropriate "rude" comments from non-beta testers, etc.

Knee-jerk reactions like this seldom work, they just make people feel better without solving problems.
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Donny M. Carter

Because someone is told to read or search for something is not being "RUDE"! People are "LAZY" and other people are tired of it!

Donny

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TitusCarnathan

these are the people that normally use LOR one year and then sell their equipment

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DonFL wrote:

LORAdmin wrote:
Light-O-Rama has been receiving and increasing number of complaints that those with the "Beta Tester" title were being "Rude" and treating them unfairly.

Thus the decision was made to remove any/all references to "Beta Tester" in the titles.

The duplicate member groups are a result of the software platform the forums currently utilize.

The logic here makes no sense. Its being assumed that:

1. only beta testers are being "rude" or acting inappropriately in the forums.

2. taking away a "title" will change that, if one actually believes the silliness of assumption number 1.

I've seen a lot of inappropriate "rude" comments from non-beta testers, etc.

Knee-jerk reactions like this seldom work, they just make people feel better without solving problems.


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DonFL wrote:

I've seen a lot of inappropriate "rude" comments from non-beta testers, etc.

Knee-jerk reactions like this seldom work, they just make people feel better without solving problems.


There are many changes in the works. I would not consider the actions of the last 24 hours to be knee-jerk, nor the last of the changes.


Donny M. Carter wrote:
Because someone is told to read or search for something is not being "RUDE"! People are "LAZY" and other people are tired of it!


Just because something is printed in the manual doesn't mean that reading it will cause one to understand it. Everyone learns differently.
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DonFL wrote:

LORAdmin wrote:
Light-O-Rama has been receiving and increasing number of complaints that those with the "Beta Tester" title were being "Rude" and treating them unfairly.

Thus the decision was made to remove any/all references to "Beta Tester" in the titles.

The duplicate member groups are a result of the software platform the forums currently utilize.

The logic here makes no sense. Its being assumed that:

1. only beta testers are being "rude" or acting inappropriately in the forums.

2. taking away a "title" will change that, if one actually believes the silliness of assumption number 1.

I've seen a lot of inappropriate "rude" comments from non-beta testers, etc.

Knee-jerk reactions like this seldom work, they just make people feel better without solving problems.




I think that some of those that were attacked by veterans thought that the Beta Testers were staff. Now, those that are attacked will not be able to discern that those attacking them are vets to the hobby and forum?
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Donny M. Carter wrote:

Because someone is told to read or search for something is not being "RUDE"! People are "LAZY" and other people are tired of it!

Donny


You could always decide not to respond to the post that offends you.
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Dale W wrote:

Donny M. Carter wrote:
Because someone is told to read or search for something is not being "RUDE"! People are "LAZY" and other people are tired of it!

Donny


You could always decide not to respond to the post that offends you.

Agreed they could decide not to respond to these silly posters, that being said the reason they do reply to these silly posters is simple, if they didn't reply to some of these posts that are being made there would a lot more people having no clue as to what is going on, people could get electricuted, there could be fires, there could be contollers that have a bad triacs and no one would know the answer to these questions, so ya maybe the old vetrans should say hey lets not answer these silly posts and see where that takes everybody. but you can surly bet that I would ask the old vets only because the knowledge and experiance that they bring to the table is invaluable, and I know that the answer that they are going to give me has been from experiance not guess work.
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Ken Benedict

Why not make a new designation of MENTOR or VOLUNTEER HELPER to let others know that person has offered to help?

Maybe a specialty like DMX GURU, PIXEL WIZARD, DECORATOR DOCTOR, or CCR MEDIC?

Or 4th YEAR VETERAN, ELDER, or CURMUDGEON?


My two cents worth.

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Jeff Millard wrote:

Ken Benedict wrote:
...or CURMUDGEON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


 + 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.2

Jeff

('sa ninside yoke... I think...)

We have a volunteer!? :P
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LORAdmin wrote:

There are many changes in the works. I would not consider the actions of the last 24 hours to be knee-jerk, nor the last of the changes.



That's great Don. And... if I have any impact from them, there will be one big damn sale in North Carolina. Get prepared... 50 units will go on the chopping block.

I pissed off to the maximum for being called a bully or whatever the hell. I have invested over $30K in a huge light show, decorating for years, and this is the kind of respect I get. If that's the case, the hell with it all!
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Ken Benedict wrote:

Why not make a new designation of MENTOR or VOLUNTEER HELPER to let others know that person has offered to help?

Maybe a specialty like DMX GURU, PIXEL WIZARD, DECORATOR DOCTOR, or CCR MEDIC?

Or 4th YEAR VETERAN, ELDER, or CURMUDGEON?


My two cents worth.

If you read Don's post, it suggests that people were bother because they felt they were being "attacked" by beta testers.

So the "solution" to that is to give everyone a "member" label, unless you are a partner.

Once you decide to start giving designations that suggest someone is an expert and can help, you also run into the challenge of needing to determine whether they have the skills and knowledge to offer up that help. I've seen a lot of bad information come from those that have been here awhile..

What seems to be missed is, the frustration is not being asked to help...it is someone not making any effort on their own to help themselves before asking questions. And that goes not only for beta testers, but a lot of us here to spend a lot of time trying to help.

Just my two cents worth...
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TitusCarnathan

William I feel the same as you the bigger customers get kicked in the teeth because possible new customers complain about everything because they cant just slap this system together to make it work

Oh and Dan and Lor company I remember back around Last year when you could not get your orders out on time Over here in message board land we were trying to calm them down by telling them how great of a company you run

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TitusCarnathan

Honestly I was going to get about 2 or 3 more controllers this year and maby a second set of ells to create a second network but I am honestly thinking of saying screw it

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Guest wbottomley

Titus, don't give up. Our viewers don't know what's involved or the headache it takes to make it work.

I would go ahead and purchase what you want and have fun with it. I plan to not the peons send me over the edge anymore. These wonderful LOR partners can handle the support questions. I'll handle all of the ones concerning my display.

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TitusCarnathan

I am not going to give up Its probably the cold and post nasel drip that I have that is talking

And I am going to order those controllers because I already ordered the lights for those controllers

I still am going to be on the beta forums but I am not going to help on this end of it.
it seems the LOR Partners are more special that they were not singled out so let them answer questions if someone actually wants me help they have to pm me since being everything us vets say are offensive

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It's Dan's company, and hence, his forum, agreed, and I understand how he (and likely the partners) feel this forum is an extension of LOR as a company. I get that.

But what seems to be forgotten is this forum is supported by those who are customers, and show their support by participating in the forum, and helping others (even the ones who think this is plug and play like the computer they get from Best Buy, and with 5 minutes of effort and a couple questions, they can have LMFAO dancing in their driveway). But what seems to be forgotten is, all of those controllers we buy is what has made Dan successful. We're all customers..not just the ones who feel they are being "bullied" into thinking for themselves.

My display is 100% LOR. I have too much into it to make a change and walk away from LOR, but I can do my display without spending a minute helping others on this forum. If things contine as they have these past couple days, I'm probably headed that direction. Sadly, my sense is, others are feeling the same way.

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