Caleb Linburg Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 I was just watching the national geographic channel, a show called "Rocket City Rednecks" they were using a light-o-Rama box to light fireworks. I may just have to try this in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrison0550 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Hmmmm that extremely interests me. That is another project I've been debating on for years and dying to get into. I have tons of pictures and diagrams saved to my hard dive for building a firing box but the thought never even crossed my mind to use an LOR board. Gonna to grab a copy of that show from work in the morning. Any idea what episode that was? From what I can tell the latest episode aired last month and they have had only 10 episodes so far. I will try to skim through them and find it tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jldavis1969 Posted November 16, 2011 Share Posted November 16, 2011 Better think about using a DC board then!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Linburg Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 They were using what looked to be a CTB16PC. I'm pretty sure it is this episode http://www.tv-links.eu/tv-shows/Rocket-City-dRednecks_27520/season_1/episode_14/Not sure why it says "self enginered computer program" it is defiantly LOR software on their computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromill Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 All I have to say is this. I have worked with shooting professional fireworks using computer firing systems for over a decade now. I would NEVER! use a lor system for ignitions of them.. however if you want computer controlled pyro to music look for fireone, pyrodigital or pyromate nighthawk systems... they cost what them do for a reason SAFETY! both of the user's and spectators. but... I will say this.. you could use lor to trigger a display using alot of proper fire systems and they would only fire even with being triggered if everything was right to... fire key hot.. dead-man switch in hand and depressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hamilton Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 pyromill wrote: All I have to say is this. I have worked with shooting professional fireworks using computer firing systems for over a decade now. I would NEVER! use a lor system for ignitions of them.. however if you want computer controlled pyro to music look for fireone, pyrodigital or pyromate nighthawk systems... they cost what them do for a reason SAFETY! both of the user's and spectators. but... I will say this.. you could use lor to trigger a display using alot of proper fire systems and they would only fire even with being triggered if everything was right to... fire key hot.. dead-man switch in hand and depressed.Amen!Having grown up in the South, I sure saw a lot of crazy adaptations. Using LOR for Pyro? I'm surprised they didn't kill themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromill Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Richard Hamilton wrote: pyromill wrote: All I have to say is this. I have worked with shooting professional fireworks using computer firing systems for over a decade now. I would NEVER! use a lor system for ignitions of them.. however if you want computer controlled pyro to music look for fireone, pyrodigital or pyromate nighthawk systems... they cost what them do for a reason SAFETY! both of the user's and spectators. but... I will say this.. you could use lor to trigger a display using alot of proper fire systems and they would only fire even with being triggered if everything was right to... fire key hot.. dead-man switch in hand and depressed.Amen!Having grown up in the South, I sure saw a lot of crazy adaptations. Using LOR for Pyro? I'm surprised they didn't kill themselves.Just a side note.. the dead-man switch in hand.... by that I mean the "pickle" as they tend to be called .. has two buttons.. one that must always remain held down for anything to fire... and the fire button itself.. you die... your finger tends to let go of the must remain pressed button... if there is something gone wrong with the firing.. you let go of the button.. or toss it and duck.. been there.. ducking down in the bunker waiting for the equipment to stop flying through the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magish01 Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Pyrodigital is the only way to go for safety when doing a coriographed show up close and personal. When I fire the New Year's Day fireworks at the Rose Bowl, we are on the sidelines and in the middle of the field with bands, talent, and spectators all around. Would NOT want a major BOO-BOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromill Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 fully agree with pyrodigi for proximate use.. used it for nfl games on the field, roof, out in a field love that system.. second for close... nighthawk but more of a mess with that system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabinlights Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 As a PGI member I would never use LOR for a shoot you have to have a fail safe and you cant get this with LOR. You could use software to manal shoot your display with the timing and can broadcst your music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromill Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 and there you have it... 3 strike you're OUT! .. 3 of us well versed in fireworks all agree DO NOT USE LOR FOR FIREWORKS!.. backing up the same as diychristmas.. just don't do it.. don't be a idiot use a system for what it is designed for lighting control.. or a pyro system for pyro unless you want to possibly die or kill someone you love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 But then we have folks here using LOR to turn on propane fueled flames. And I'm sure it wasn't really designed for that either.But I agree with the fireworks experts here, this is a disaster in the making and could potentially cause harm to not only oneself, but possibly your neighbors home getting in the way and burning their (or your own) home down, not to say possibly hit some bystander that may or may not be watching the show.Just too dangerous to be adding anything like that to an LOR Controlled display. And I've worked in the explosives industry so I do have knowledge of what can possibly happen when someone tries something idiotic with fireworks or explosives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromill Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 Orville wrote: But then we have folks here using LOR to turn on propane fueled flames. And I'm sure it wasn't really designed for that either.No it wasn't designed for that... and most those folks prolly do not have the built in fail safe that flame projectors have... no spark or pilot light.. no valve open... they might if they found the right parts but highly doubtful.But I agree with the fireworks experts here, this is a disaster in the making and could potentially cause harm to not only oneself, but possibly your neighbors home getting in the way and burning their (or your own) home down, not to say possibly hit some bystander that may or may not be watching the show.Just too dangerous to be adding anything like that to an LOR Controlled display. And I've worked in the explosives industry so I do have knowledge of what can possibly happen when someone tries something idiotic with fireworks or explosivesso so so very true.Don't let what we have all said discourage anyone from fireworks, but do it safe and sane using stuff intended for the purpose.. trust me when I say.. you want to make sure it's safe for everyone ... I've had stuff blow up right in my face causing 2nd and 3rd degree burns when I was younger not doing things the proper way. No one wants that pain! Thank god I lived through my mistakes.. lets hope we all have a happy healthy safe and sane holiday season.. and remember.. with pyro the saying "don't try this at home kids" should be in your head a little.. even though some might hear.. "don't try this at home kids... do it at your friends house where no parents are around" ... kick that evil one off your shoulder!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmomkr Posted November 18, 2011 Share Posted November 18, 2011 I push all the limits, and do plenty of things that Max insist will kill me, but even I would not dare use LOR to trigger fireworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Linburg Posted November 19, 2011 Author Share Posted November 19, 2011 And I just had another thought. Has anyone here ever had their lights flash when they plugged in their controllers? Unless they are keeping it plugged in the whole time they set it all up till they launch them, some could fire when you plug it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2011 Share Posted November 19, 2011 Caleb Linburg wrote: And I just had another thought. Has anyone here ever had their lights flash when they plugged in their controllers? Unless they are keeping it plugged in the whole time they set it all up till they launch them, some could fire when you plug it in.Yes, I've had that happen and I keep my controllers plugged in pretty much 24/7 365 days a year. It's just a quick flash, probably a small discharge from a capacitor that didn't fully discharge from the last use of that channel. Mostly this has happened on a channel I may have started out using, then changed things around and it became an unused channel for the duration. Then when I plug in a light string, it fires very briefly to discharge any leftover juice in the capacitor that controls that circuit.At least that's the most logical reason I can come up with for that happening.Nothing to worry about though.Well, not unless you're sticking your fingers or tongue in the receptacle, then that might give you a jolt.:shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabinlights Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 We have use flashed pots in our show but it is not fired for LOR. Have fail safe systems in play at all times. it only uses dmx signal to start its own program. Remeber Flash powder can and will kill you if you dont know what you are doing. Have seen this up close and not something you would ever want to happen to anyone. We all like things that light up but play it safe, get training! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyromill Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 sabinlights wrote: We have use flashed pots in our show but it is not fired for LOR. Have fail safe systems in play at all times. it only uses dmx signal to start its own program. Remeber Flash powder can and will kill you if you dont know what you are doing. Have seen this up close and not something you would ever want to happen to anyone. We all like things that light up but play it safe, get training!You've seen people killed by it ? ... I learned to respect flash in 11th grade when the stuff gave me 1rst, 2nd and 3rd degree burns on my lighting arm and face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John2571 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I would never fire any pyro product with LOR. I own a fireone system and it is the only thing I will use to fire any pyro products. If you want to become more educated about pyro go to pyrouniverse.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabinlights Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Yep two people had flash on there feet and a drum of fff in there truck and they walked to there truck and that was it. nothing to toy with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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