dknahoolewa Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 So...first off i would have to say I'm an idiot for not fully reading the directions. Pictures are better but that's what got me in trouble. This is a sad day for me b/c I can do just about anything and this should have been no different.So i bought (2) LOR controller soldering kits and I just finished the first one and realized I soldered the micro processor to the board. so I unsoldered it and did it correctly. Well I'm guessing i fried the processor b/c when i plug in the controller the led doesn't even come on.Anyone know whats going on?I also can't get the USB rj45 adapter to recognize on my computer. I'll have to post the error later, but i tried it on two different computers and get the same thing.I won't make the same mistake twice, so I hope the second one comes out ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rise Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Could be something as simple as not getting a good solder connection. Might want to check your soldering points. If you're not sure what to look for, see if a friend with some experience will look at it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Are both line cords attached and plugged in? I can never remember which one provides power to the processor, etc..believe it is the channel 9-16 side. So you need to either have the jumpers installed, or both line cords attached to test the whole board.I know you don't want to hear it now, but as long as it was oriented right, and, you didn't cook it in the soldering process, you could have left it soldered in.I would strongly recommend sending it to LOR for repair...or have them send you a new processor chip...all is not lost.Have you installed drivers for the 485 adapter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If you have a second kit, and assuming you are confident you have no solder shorts, etc., and have put the processor socket in, you can always try the processor chip from the second kit to see if that is your issue.I would do that only if you are confident there is no damage from unsoldering the original processor chip and installing the socket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If the controller LED won't even come on, then the adapter won't recognize the computer anyway. Need a flashing LED first for the controller to even think about talking back to the computer.I would get with LOR and ask them to send another processor board. They are great in helping out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santas Helper Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 And as Don said....Plus, check your fuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 As for the USB485 error of not being recognized, you have to install the drivers for it from the software CD. Otherwise you will continue to get that error forever and a day.Find you initial LOR CD that came with your software package, insert it into your drive. If you have the USB485 installed via the USB port, the hardware should locate the software on the CD automatically. Install the drivers and try again, it should work.Not sure what the file names are that setup the USB485 hardware on the CD as mine finds it automatically under Win XP.Hope this may help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dknahoolewa Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 So I'll do another double take on the connections. I've done many soldering projects and never screwed one up like this.I do have both line cords installed (no jumper). just for kicks...do the neutrals have to be in any curtain order?I installed the driver that came on the CD with the kit. I'm sure it's something dumb. I'll post the error tonight and I'm sure someone will know exactly what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dknahoolewa Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'm almost positive I fried the processor b/c it was a pain to get off. I plan on giving the second one a go before mailing it back to be looked at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nurples Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 If you can post an image of both sides of the board, someone might be able to pick out an obvious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dknahoolewa Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 I'll do that when i get home.thanks for the idea.pictures really are better than directions!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToddH Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Also Keep in mind, LOR backs you 100% on the kits. Just have to ship it back for replacement part if im not mistaken?---The Light-O-Rama Promise: If you choose a DIY product that requires soldering, we will stand behind you 100%. Almost every problem can be fixed via email or a phone call. If you cannot get your controller to operate we will attempt to repair it absolutely free. If you damage a component we replace it free!. If we cannot determine the problem we will replace the kit for free! In the extremely rare case, that you physically damage the kit beyond repair, our standard warrantee will cover 40% of the replacement cost!Note: Customer pays shipping for free repairs and free replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dknahoolewa Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 That's great. I know they will take care of me. I'm hoping it's something i can fix without sending it in.Everyone has been great in providing help and feed back. thanks everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 dknahoolewa wrote: I'm almost positive I fried the processor b/c it was a pain to get off.That's an understatement! A friend of mine made the same mistake you did and soldered the processor directly instead of using the socket. We would have just left it in, except that he also installed it backwards. It was decided that the best solution was to remove the processor by cutting all the leads and desoldering them individually. LOR was nice enough to ship a replacement processor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-Paul Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 I would imagine if you powered up the board and the processor was in backwards, you might have fried it also. As for the adapter. First, the software or driver is on a CD that came with the adapter, not the controller. The only place that I know of that you can see the adapter is on the control panel in the system hardware. I suggest you go there before messing with a controller. Once the software is installed and the adapter is plugged into a USB port. Go looking for it on the hardware page of the control panel. You want to know what serial port it has been assigned to. Now from this point on, always plug into that USB port. If you plug into a different USB port. Your adapter might be assigned to a different serial port. So lets say you start off with port 5. Change USB port and now you might be serial port 6. this makes things difficult when trying to use the hardware utility. I found this out the hard way myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
displaysinmotion_will Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Check R17 if you put the wrong resistor there it will most certainly fry the microprocessor. There are two resistors that look identical to each other but have a major difference in resistance value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rise Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Ok, not to take away from dknahoolewa issues. But I've got a soldering problem.I removed a couple of chips that I installed wrong. One of them came out fairly easy and will not be an issue re installing.However, the other part is giving me problems. I got it out with some convincing, but when I put the other part in,I can not get the solder to go into the hole, it keeps wanting to run up the soldering iron.any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
displaysinmotion_will Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Get a roll of solder braid from radioshack, when you heat the solder up the braid will suck up all the solder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max-Paul Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 David Rise wrote: Ok, not to take away from dknahoolewa issues. But I've got a soldering problem.I removed a couple of chips that I installed wrong. One of them came out fairly easy and will not be an issue re installing.However, the other part is giving me problems. I got it out with some convincing, but when I put the other part in,I can not get the solder to go into the hole, it keeps wanting to run up the soldering iron.any ideas? Ok, most modern circuit boards have a plated hole. It is very possible that with you having some problems getting the chip out. You also took out the little plated pipe that runs through the board. So now the solder stop on the pad and will not go through the hole from one side to the other. Does this sound like it might be your problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Rise Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Max-Paul wrote:David Rise wrote: Ok, not to take away from dknahoolewa issues. But I've got a soldering problem.I removed a couple of chips that I installed wrong. One of them came out fairly easy and will not be an issue re installing.However, the other part is giving me problems. I got it out with some convincing, but when I put the other part in,I can not get the solder to go into the hole, it keeps wanting to run up the soldering iron.any ideas? Ok, most modern circuit boards have a plated hole. It is very possible that with you having some problems getting the chip out. You also took out the little plated pipe that runs through the board. So now the solder stop on the pad and will not go through the hole from one side to the other. Does this sound like it might be your problem?Yup...that's it. Did I ruin the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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