Surfing4Dough Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Jeff Millard wrote: james campbell wrote:Jeff Millard wrote: Here's the strobes video.how are you getting them randomized? can you change speeds? can you send me a copy:DIf you watch, there is a repeating pattern. Yes. No.JeffI wish the strobes didn't look like LED strobes, but rather more like Xenon strobes. They look too much like flashing lights, rather than the POP and flash of Xenons. Plus the whole randomization issue... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 In the old visualizer what I did was to draw in strobes one light to a channel. I put all those ghost channels in a separate track and to make them randomize - FOR VISUALIZATION PURPOSES ONLY - I simply twinkled them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Okay I see the upgrade to S3 will be supposedly $20.00 But the MILLION DOLLAR question is, if you want to upgrade to S3 WITH the SuperStar software, HOW MUCH is that upgrade going to cost? As I'm sure that $20 IS NOT going to cover that now is it? (I seriously doubt it, but stranger things have happened).So I'd like to know is what the COMPLETE FULL PACKAGE UPGRADE is going to cost to go from S2 to S3? Anyone know or have any info on that aspect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friskybri Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 1 billion dollars. muhahahahahahahahah muhahahahahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevMike Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Beleive it or not, those strobes ARE random. It would take a whole lot more code to make them a pattern. That would never happen - I'm cheap! The patterns that you perceive (and I see them too) is your brain trying to bring order to chaos.Unfortunately, there is no good way to make any bulb look more like an incandescent or xenon. Yes, we could add some 'attack' and 'decay' to each bulb, but the amount of math required along with all the additional rendering would slow things to a crawl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevMike Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 George Simmons wrote:It's nice to have round strobes in the visualizer instead of having to make square ones. (And I like those flying dogs too.)Strobes in the Visualizer can be ANY of the shapes, Round, Square, Stars, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed P Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Jeff Millard wrote: Here's the strobes video.Thanks for that video Jeff.I can't wait for that new visualizer.Looks great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Zman raised a question in another thread...so this is to DevMike or any of the Beta Testers...will we be able to use the CTRL feature and "grab" multiple channels (even if they are not adjacent to one another) and move them within a track...or even Copy To Track Number... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 jimswinder wrote: Zman raised a question in another thread...so this is to DevMike or any of the Beta Testers...will we be able to use the CTRL feature and "grab" multiple channels (even if they are not adjacent to one another) and move them within a track...or even Copy To Track Number...Not exactly. Creating a group requires using X number of contiguous channels. You select the starting and ending channel in the group. Once the group is created you can copy it or move it to a different track. Altogether it takes less than a minute, regardless of the size of the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 George Simmons wrote: jimswinder wrote: Zman raised a question in another thread...so this is to DevMike or any of the Beta Testers...will we be able to use the CTRL feature and "grab" multiple channels (even if they are not adjacent to one another) and move them within a track...or even Copy To Track Number...Not exactly. Creating a group requires using X number of contiguous channels. You select the starting and ending channel in the group. Once the group is created you can copy it or move it to a different track. Altogether it takes less than a minute, regardless of the size of the group.Actually the question was about moving channels within tracks not creating a group ...but is it the same?So if we want to move a few channels from the bottom of a track to the top, it is still just one at a time, huh?So I guess that for other instances (which I can't think of what they were right now) where we want or need to grab several different things, we won't be able to do that either...EDIT:Thought of an example...copying and pasting channels that are not side by side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Roberson Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I think I may just put a screen outside to play the visualizer on. Comparing the S3 visualizer with a video I took of last years show side by side. I think the visualizer looks better.:? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Roberson Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: jimswinder wrote: Zman raised a question in another thread...so this is to DevMike or any of the Beta Testers...will we be able to use the CTRL feature and "grab" multiple channels (even if they are not adjacent to one another) and move them within a track...or even Copy To Track Number...Not exactly. Creating a group requires using X number of contiguous channels. You select the starting and ending channel in the group. Once the group is created you can copy it or move it to a different track. Altogether it takes less than a minute, regardless of the size of the group.Actually the question was about moving channels within tracks not creating a group ...but is it the same?So if we want to move a few channels from the bottom of a track to the top, it is still just one at a time, huh?So I guess that for other instances (which I can't think of what they were right now) where we want or need to grab several different things, we won't be able to do that either...No we still don't have a ctrl "grab" multiple channels function.If, like in your example, you have a few channels on the bottom of a track you want to move to the top of 100s of channels. I would put these few channels in a group and move the group to the top. Then you can remove those channels from the group. That way would be fastet than trying to move 6 channels one at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 George Simmons wrote: Not exactly. Creating a group requires using X number of contiguous channels. Didn't Bob show an example of making a group that did not have contiguous channels?http://www.lightorama.com/bobpublic/GroupParts.swfor were you speaking of something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: Not exactly. Creating a group requires using X number of contiguous channels. Didn't Bob show an example of making a group that did not have contiguous channels?http://www.lightorama.com/bobpublic/GroupParts.swfor were you speaking of something else?If you're referring to the second group he made, look again and you'll see that he first moved those channels into a contiguous position and then created the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevMike Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Paul Roberson wrote:I think I may just put a screen outside to play the visualizer on. Comparing the S3 visualizer with a video I took of last years show side by side. I think the visualizer looks better.:? If you read into it a little bit, the Visualizer help file suggests that not only is it a planning tool, but it can be used as a display item as well."Since the Visualizer uses standard IP communication, it is not limited to just designing simulations on your sequencing computer; it can also be used as a display item in your show. For example, you could attach a large screen TV to a computer somewhere else on your physical stage and control it from your show computer."If you look through Jeff's videos, you'll find one where he is controlling a visualizer on a computer separate of this show machine.One of the main tests we ran before going into Beta was a 12 CCR matrix that Brian programmed. Dan's going to kill me when I say this: A big screen TV hooked up to a computer that is running Visualizer that has a 12 CCR matrix on it looks good, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 George Simmons wrote:If you're referring to the second group he made, look again and you'll see that he first moved those channels into a contiguous position and then created the group.maybe I missing something...but I see him insert a CCD (as a group) and from that CCR he takes Pixels 1, 5, 8, and 11 and makes a group out of them...or are we saying the same but differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 jimswinder wrote: maybe I missing something... but I see him insert a CCD (as a group) and from that CCR he takes Pixels 1, 5, 8, and 11 and makes a group out of them...You ARE missing something - the most important step. Look at it again - he copies/moves those four channels to a different place where they're contiguous and THEN he makes them into a group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 George Simmons wrote: jimswinder wrote: maybe I missing something... but I see him insert a CCD (as a group) and from that CCR he takes Pixels 1, 5, 8, and 11 and makes a group out of them...You ARE missing something - the most important step. Look at it again - he copies/moves those four channels to a different place where they're contiguous and THEN he makes them into a group.well..there's the problem...when you said "Creating a group requires using X number of contiguous channels I thought you meant that to create that group you had to USE contiguous channels (ie Channels 1, 2, 3, 4, etc).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Simmons Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Point taken - I'll explain it better next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 George Simmons wrote: Point taken - I'll explain it better next time.and I'll TRY to understand it better!!! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: Point taken - I'll explain it better next time.and I'll TRY to understand it better!!! lolOK, seriously...like that is going to happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulanator Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 I really appreciate the discussion from the beta folks and giving us some tidbits. I don't feel like I am left out or whatever the crybabies were whining about...On that sample that you had Jeff, I saw a couple more cool features on the left side of the screen: Stretch to fit and repeat to fit, and paste to foreground is right there too. Features like these little ones and the big ones already discussed, are really going to help us out.I am as excited as everyone around here, but honestly, I would rather you folks help get it running great before we get our hands on it. I really appreciate all the work everyone is doing on the new software.And I wish everyone would just stop asking when it is going to be done, and wait patiently, just like we tell the kids. (OK, maybe, "shut the hell up - I told you we are not there yet...)Thanks again staff and beta testers. Attached files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Jeff Millard wrote: jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: Will you two get a room or something?!?JeffI'll take "something"... :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing4Dough Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 jimswinder wrote: Jeff Millard wrote: jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: jimswinder wrote: George Simmons wrote: Will you two get a room or something?!?JeffI'll take "something"... :shock:Then I guess you can get the BB award instead:P: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 Surfing4Dough wrote: Then I guess you can get the BB award instead:P:what's a "wat"???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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