RaceMedic Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Hello Everyone;Someone brought this to my attention yesterday, which I had not even considered.He asked if I had sequenced any "royalty free music" and I asked no ... why.He said that if a media source came to do a story about my light show that they could not air it unless it was a royalty free song.Comments !?Thanks,Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I work at a telvision station and this is becoming a more and more common thing, stations are beginning to opt not to pay ascap fees. As we have experienced there are some loops to get around this but rather than pay the fees if you accidently use copyright music it is much safer to avoid the issue. Therefore knowing this situation does exist I do exactly as your source mentioned. I have two songs sequenced just for that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackchecker Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 OK, I'll bight! How do you know if your music is Royalty Free? And how do you find it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceMedic Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Greg;Can you direct me to a site that has good quality royalty free music ?!Thanks,Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jem5136 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I would like to know this too. Is Royalty Free music free, or does it cost to download it, and where can I download good Royalty Free music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 jem5136 wrote: good Royalty Free musicIsn't that an oxymoron? just do a Google search on Royalty Free Christmas Music...lots of sites come uphttp://www.royaltyfreemusic.com/christmas-music-albums.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimswinder Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 RaceMedic wrote: He said that if a media source came to do a story about my light show that they could not air it unless it was a royalty free song.For me...that would be their problem, not mine...When they came and videoed my display, no such questions were asked.For the final TV video cut, the song was so chopped up, I think that is how they get around it. I may be wrong, but if they only play (for example) less than 3 sequential seconds of the song they don't have to pay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 jimswinder wrote: jem5136 wrote: good Royalty Free musicIsn't that an oxymoron? just do a Google search on Royalty Free Christmas Music...lots of sites come uphttp://www.royaltyfreemusic.com/christmas-music-albums.htmlWOW!! Royalty free isn't cheap! Just took a look at the halloween & patriotic....$100 each...ouch! I'll stick to buying the .99 ones.MikeH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceMedic Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 That is what I was thinking ... not very good quality and expensive as hell.As Jim said ... that would be their problem .. not mine .. one less song to sequence !!Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Dave and Jim,That is one of the ways we can get around airing any copyright music. There is a stipulation in the rights that allow you to run a story if the music can be classified as a NAT sound piece in which it is not the main focus of the story. Another way is to only air :15 second worth of music at a clip, for instance if you air :15 seconds of a song and then break it with a sound bite or voiceover or even another song or spot of a song you can still get away with legally airing the music without reporting to ASCAP.As far as my royalty free music I purchased it through the my employer from the company that provides the music for our station. While it wasn't as cheap as the .99 cent music you can buy from amazon (I think I paid 40 bucks for a CD that had about 20 cuts of music on it in various lengths). The nice thing is this music works well for radio promos, generic voiceovers, etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 MikeH wrote: WOW!! Royalty free isn't cheap! Just took a look at the halloween & patriotic....$100 each...ouch! I'll stick to buying the .99 ones.You can always download their full-length samples, if you don't mind hearing a female voiceover saying "Royalty Free Music dot com" every few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmais68569 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Here is where I get my music fromhttp://search.4shared.com/q/1/christmas Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaceMedic Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 mmais68569 wrote:Here is where I get my music fromhttp://search.4shared.com/q/1/christmas MikeAre these Royalty Free though or just file sharing !?Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgardner518 Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Watch my video and they play a lot of my music. I have had no issues.http://www.Fox23News.com/s/hZg2JmaEV0OepG4uTCGrRA.cspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Steven wrote: MikeH wrote: WOW!! Royalty free isn't cheap! Just took a look at the halloween & patriotic....$100 each...ouch! I'll stick to buying the .99 ones.You can always download their full-length samples, if you don't mind hearing a female voiceover saying "Royalty Free Music dot com" every few seconds. No thanks....I hear my wife's voice over everytime I go to the computer room.MikeH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernie Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 No thanks....I hear my wife's voice over everytime I go to the computer room.MikeHROFLMAO....... I thought I was the only one that heard that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightzilla Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 RaceMedic wrote: Hello Everyone;Someone brought this to my attention yesterday, which I had not even considered.He asked if I had sequenced any "royalty free music" and I asked no ... why.He said that if a media source came to do a story about my light show that they could not air it unless it was a royalty free song.Comments !?Thanks,DaveDave, just remember you can ask this question on a USA forum(s) but our copyright laws can be close to the same, but in other ways we are different. Our interpretation of laws are different too.....like "the Fair Use Rule".If he is a Canadian he can play music in the front yard, back yard, and Christmas displays, even if people are out side watching the show. They have no licenses here in Canada for Christmas displays. He can verify that with "Socan", however if we have questions about making a video of our display with a copyrighted song in it, then we need to go through another branch of the copyright folks.One thing he could do is reject media attention. If he is a Canadian does he want to pay for police to direct traffic if it gets to bad like Lindsay Lights had to do? It gets costly. Lindsay Lights is the best display in Canada but I believe it cost him $200.00 per night for police to keep his great display running.Another thing he could do is ask permission from the record companies, or contact the singer/song writers (especially those who have independent record labels) directly. These new up & coming music stars love getting their songs promoted.Not everyone does this but a number of displays only have between 6 to 10 songs in their display unless they are like me and run 60 songs. I make around 12 to 15 new sequences each year, so if a person only does 10 songs well he can get permission and still get his sequence done in time even waiting for the answer. Mannheim Steamroller only took until the next day to answer me back.Becky Kelly (Whereas The Line To See Jesus) answered me back in the same day.I contacted "Toby Mac's " record company and asked about the song "Christmas This Year", and a couple of days later I received my answer.And so on.My point here is that getting permission can be quick but on the odd occasion it can take a few months, but while I am waiting I can sequence the songs I got permission for.I keep and print all emails where I asked permission.I am hoping that the more record companies that grant permission, the more chance I will have to get permission from record companies that have some real big superstars.Or the person who emailed you can wait until a news reporter shows up who does not give a flip about "Royalty Free Music".Just tell them (who emailed you) to put up a display and please the viewers that are watching the show and let word of mouth do its thing. Watching the viewers grow year after year is more rewarding to me than to get media attention and see instant growth but it ( the growth) look the same each year there after.Just my opinion and may not reflect the views of aliens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedementedelf Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I know this topic is about Media coverage and I see a few references to rights to music in your display. So I thought I would post this here while looking for the forum posting on Music rights.I just got off the phone with BMI and waiting to hear from ASCAP. BMI said Home Christmas light displays do not need licensing. Iit is considered Private Use. As long as you are not charging for people to see your display. using a Part 15 transmiter is not an issue either.I suspect ASCAP's answer will be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 thedementedelf wrote: I know this topic is about Media coverage and I see a few references to rights to music in your display. So I thought I would post this here while looking for the forum posting on Music rights.I just got off the phone with BMI and waiting to hear from ASCAP. BMI said Home Christmas light displays do not need licensing. Iit is considered Private Use. As long as you are not charging for people to see your display. using a Part 15 transmiter is not an issue either.I suspect ASCAP's answer will be the same.That's good to hear.MikeH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvinson Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 For the sake of just doing something 'different', I've been going through my StakTraxx from http://www.digitaljuice.com looking for some quality tracks. They are good because you can pull out the instruments you don't want and even the vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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