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Interactive Buttons - Can't Get It To Work

jimswinder

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I have been trying for HOURS now to get an Interactive Button to start my show...but no luck. My show starts right away without pushing the button. I have created an Interactive Show and have it scheduled from 5:00pm to 8:00pm...but when I Enable Schedule, the show starts without me pushing the button...and as you can see below from the status screen , it is "Startup Trigger Detected" every five seconds (is that normal?)

My button has both a "Normal Open" and "Normal Closed" connection. When I have it hooked to the NC...nothing happens, when I have it on NO, it starts right away without pushing the button.

I have a CTB16PC with a CTB16 Header hooked up and am only using the #2 and #3 inputs of the header.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated as I was wanting/needing this for Thanksgiving night!!

My status shows this:

6:11:08 PM: Show Player starting
6:11:08 PM: Schedule loaded
6:11:13 PM: Show Player initialized
6:11:14 PM: Starting show: C:UsersJimDocumentsLight-O-RamaSequencesInteractive Test 4.lss
6:11:14 PM: Registering startup trigger
6:11:30 PM: Startup trigger detected
6:11:30 PM: Clearing triggers
6:11:30 PM: Loading sequence: C:UsersJimDocumentsLight-O-RamaSequencesX2010 Blue Christmas.lms
6:11:30 PM: Starting Interactive: C:UsersJimDocumentsLight-O-RamaSequencesX2010 Blue Christmas.lms
6:11:31 PM: Registering interactive triggers
6:11:31 PM: Startup trigger detected
6:11:36 PM: Startup trigger detected
6:11:41 PM: Startup trigger detected
6:11:46 PM: Startup trigger detected
6:11:51 PM: Startup trigger detected
6:11:56 PM: Startup trigger detected

John2571 Member

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(stupid question) Did you try attaching it to the normaly closed and pushing the button?

rstately Member

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Jim,

I think you're either doing something wrong, or, you're not doing something you should be!



Hope this helps:)

Victory402 Member

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Do a continuty check on your button terminals to be sure your NO contacts are trully NO.

George Simmons Member

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rstately wrote:

Jim,

I think you're either doing something wrong, or, you're not doing something you should be!

Careful now - you don't want to hurt the poor man's feelings... not after he played the feeble card right off the bat in the thread's title.
jimswinder Member

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John2571 wrote:

(stupid question) Did you try attaching it to the normaly closed and pushing the button?

Yep...tried both ways...
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rstately wrote:

Jim,

I think you're either doing something wrong, or, you're not doing something you should be!

I am sure I am doing BOTH something wrong and not doing something I should be...
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George Simmons wrote:

rstately wrote:
Jim,

I think you're either doing something wrong, or, you're not doing something you should be!

Careful now - you don't want to hurt the poor man's feelings... not after he played the feeble card right off the bat in the thread's title.

LOL Obviously it didn't work...I got no help from NO ONE!!! LOL

Except rstately...
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Victory402 wrote:

Do a continuty check on your button terminals to be sure your NO contacts are trully NO.

you're assuming I would know how to do that!!! LOL

That is one piece of equipment I have never taken the time to understand...a volt meter...

I have one...but have never used it...

I have several buttons..maybe I got a bad one..
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whiner! Maybe you can take the button out of the testing and just touch the two wires together.

The Startup trigger detected message means the two wires are connected. Which is a pressed in momentary contact button on the NO contacts. Or an unpressed button on the NC contacts.

If the trigger says its detected when the button is not connected and you are looking at the two wires not touching then you the problem is at the header on the board the way you have it hooked up.

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ItsMeBobO wrote:

whiner!

**last name is WINDER...not whiner... * (ok George...you can JUMP all over that remark!!)** LOL

Maybe you can take the button out of the testing and just touch the two wires together.

**I will try that tonight**

The Startup trigger detected message means the two wires are connected. Which is a pressed in momentary contact button on the NO contacts. Or an unpressed button on the NC contacts.

**Are you saying that it appears the two wires are continuously connected and that's why it is being detected every 5 seconds?**

If the trigger says its detected when the button is not connected and you are looking at the two wires not touching then you the problem is at the header on the board the way you have it hooked up.

**I will double check AGAIN, but I believe it to be hooked up correctly...**

Thanks Bob!!!
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Jeff Millard wrote:

Jim,
The first step is to make sure the input is getting into the software. Use the hardware utility to test the inputs you are using. there is a selection on the test tab to switch the utility to inputs, and there you can see the trigger a it changes state. once you've done that and see the trigger change state, come back and we'll get to the next step.

Will do that tonight...

I somewhat remember seeing that tab...but when I opened it (I thought) I saw 16 inputs...so figured that was just for the 16 channels...

But again..will look closer when I get home tonight...and will check it out on my Show laptop at lunch.
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Jeff Millard wrote:

Jim,
The first step is to make sure the input is getting into the software. Use the hardware utility to test the inputs you are using. there is a selection on the test tab to switch the utility to inputs, and there you can see the trigger a it changes state. once you've done that and see the trigger change state, come back and we'll get to the next step.

Okay..couldn't wait til lunch!! LOL

I do not see a "TEST Tab under the Hardware Utility...

just LOR Control, LOR MP3, LOR RF, Digital IO Boards, and X10 CM11A.

Are you speaking of the "TEST" button at the bottom of the Hardware Utility?

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Never Mind!!!

Just saw it...

sure wish there was a way to retract comments!!!! LOL
rstately Member

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So Jim, What happened? Did you figure it out?

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rstately wrote:

So Jim, What happened? Did you figure it out?

just got home....

two hours for a 30 minute drive...

Just the MENTION of snow, Seattle comes to a stand still...

we got about 1-2"...but then everything froze...so the freeways were jammed...
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rstately wrote:

So Jim, What happened? Did you figure it out?

Unfreaking believable!!!

I hooked up a different controller with the same button...same results...

Undid the connections to the buttons and touched them together and it worked!!!!

So grabbed another button (of the 20 I ordered) and hooked it up...and it WORKED AGAIN!!!!

What is the possibility of me grabbing the one and only button that was defective out of the 20 I bought?

The "Winder Curse" continues...

Thanks for everyone's help...
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okay...so another question...

My buttons have 12v lights..is there a way to get 12v power from the controller boards?

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Jeff Millard wrote:


Gee Jeff...what you said was so bad you had to delete it?!?!?! LOL
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