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d-Light did it...wheres LOR's!!!!

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So d-Light introduced their servo board today...when are we going to get our servo board from LOR?! Now granted the d-Light version does just servo's and I know LOR's DIO will do a lot more...but I still want it!!

COME ON!! Release the DIO32!!!!!!!

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Yea I got the mail from d-light too. I hope LOR can muster an announcment with what they have and prices soon.

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Yeah, I saw that too. Hmmm, wonder when Dan will announce their 32 channel servo board. I might have to try one of these out if I want to have a chance of using this technology this Halloween.

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Yup, Im under a time crunch to get my routines complete for halloween.

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I happened to see some early released designs at the Pac NW Mini last Saturday. Bill Foley was able to extract some early boards from Dan to show us. So I know they are on the way!

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zman wrote:

I happened to see some early released designs at the Pac NW Mini last Saturday. Bill Foley was able to extract some early boards from Dan to show us. So I know they are on the way!


Early boards? Nice! Is a 32 servo controller the only one?

I hate to say it, but several 8 servo controllers may be better.

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Can you share any more specifics on his new offerings? I thought LOR was coming out with a new board that could control 32 servos AND do some other things. The competitions new 8 channel board is just for servo control I believe.

I really like LORs software and prefer to stick to LOR products but I think I am going to pre-order 1 of the competitors 8 channel boards to test out and try to get my skulls going. If LOR is able to get their's out in time and be price competitive, I might get one of the LOR boards as well to control the other couple talking skulls.

Like CENIUM said , "I'm under a time crunch to get my routines complete for Halloween". With Halloween being on a Saturday this year, it's going to be a bigger event so I want to get my new stuff done.

Has anyone checked out Aurora from AuroraShow? I like the wave form graphics and the light design features. Not as happy with the programming page. The demo version keeps shutting off and does not let you do as much as LORs software. That alone kept me from parting w/ another$100 to try it out. I would like to see LOR incorporate some of those features in it's next update. Hint hint...

Bring on the new boards Dan. Please!

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Jeff Juneman wrote:

Can you share any more specifics on his new offerings? I thought LOR was coming out with a new board that could control 32 servos AND do some other things. The competitions new 8 channel board is just for servo control I believe.

I really like LORs software and prefer to stick to LOR products but I think I am going to pre-order 1 of the competitors 8 channel boards to test out and try to get my skulls going. If LOR is able to get their's out in time and be price competitive, I might get one of the LOR boards as well to control the other couple talking skulls.

Like CENIUM said , "I'm under a time crunch to get my routines complete for Halloween". With Halloween being on a Saturday this year, it's going to be a bigger event so I want to get my new stuff done.

Has anyone checked out Aurora from AuroraShow? I like the wave form graphics and the light design features. Not as happy with the programming page. The demo version keeps shutting off and does not let you do as much as LORs software. That alone kept me from parting w/ another$100 to try it out. I would like to see LOR incorporate some of those features in it's next update. Hint hint...

Bring on the new boards Dan. Please!


I to was interested in aurora, mostly because this year i will be running several firefly and it is a PITA to sequence on S2. But I search the LOR and PC forums for aurora and did not read any posts that made me run and buy it.

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Now I have not actually touched a DIO 32 yet, but from the manual, which I have read several times, and the preliminary information LOR has released, please realize that their board IS NOT just a servo board. There are 32 channels on the actual board, and out of those 16 of them can be used for servo control. The rest can be used as as input triggers, much like the input header LOR released. Now, with the DIO board, LOR will also be releasing several daughter boards that can plug into the board to control other things. One of those boards is a High Current, Filtered 8-Channel Triac Dimming board. The next is a 16-Channel Triac Dimming board. The third is an 8-Channel Relay board and the last one is a 16-Channel Connection Board which will allow you to easily connect everything to the board. So, the basic moral to the story is although the board will control double the amount of servos as the d-Light board, it will also do A LOT of other things. LOR's board is something that has been along time coming and I personally can not wait for it to come out.

Also, here is the manual...
http://lightorama.com/Documents/DIO32_Man_Web.pdf

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My understanding that it's suppose to be out for the annual June sale.

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thebaronn wrote:

zman wrote:
I happened to see some early released designs at the Pac NW Mini last Saturday. Bill Foley was able to extract some early boards from Dan to show us. So I know they are on the way!


Early boards? Nice! Is a 32 servo controller the only one?

I hate to say it, but several 8 servo controllers may be better.


Sorry, should have clarified. For halloween the servo portion is the only thing that interests me. separate anamatronics accross the yard seem to be better served by a couple of 8 servo cards.

It sad, but the LOR DIO seems like a lot of stuff I will probably never use, and/or understand!! LOL! I read the manual and I totally need a translator! Translate to 1st grade English! College obviously paid off for me!

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To be honest with you, the more I think about it, the more I think that their price is high for just a servo controller. But thats just me. LOR usually give you a lot more bang for your buck.

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Baron - do you use dmx yet? if so, how about the Northlight servo board?

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Ponddude wrote:

To be honest with you, the more I think about it, the more I think that their price is high for just a servo controller. But thats just me. LOR usually give you a lot more bang for your buck.

I have no clue what a "good" price is!
Right now I am using a dmx controlled servo board and it was only $49.99
But, it sucks (or I suck, hard to say) so I welcome this.

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Ponddude wrote:

To be honest with you, the more I think about it, the more I think that their price is high for just a servo controller. But thats just me.

A little research reveals that there's more to this new unit than you're assuming.

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tonyjmartin wrote:

Ponddude wrote:
To be honest with you, the more I think about it, the more I think that their price is high for just a servo controller. But thats just me.

A little research reveals that there's more to this new unit than you're assuming.



This is direct from their site, and all it says is servos. Also, Darryl hasn't said anything but that they control servos over on their forums...

Features:

240 steps per servo
Use inexpensive hobby RC servos (analog or digital) and most other 5VDC servos
Works with existing compatible sequencer software
HIGHLY configurable via D-Light Hardware Utility
Up to 8 custom servo tables to accommodate different servo types
Range limiting performed in hardware via custom tables
Enclosed in an rugged aluminum housing
Self-powered servos. No need for external power to your servos.
Integrates seamlessly into existing controller network
Includes 110VAC to 12VDC power adapter

Care to elaborate?

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Ponddude wrote:

tonyjmartin wrote:
Ponddude wrote:
To be honest with you, the more I think about it, the more I think that their price is high for just a servo controller. But thats just me.

A little research reveals that there's more to this new unit than you're assuming.



This is direct from their site, and all it says is servos. Also, Darryl hasn't said anything but that they control servos over on their forums...

Features:

240 steps per servo
Use inexpensive hobby RC servos (analog or digital) and most other 5VDC servos
Works with existing compatible sequencer software
HIGHLY configurable via D-Light Hardware Utility
Up to 8 custom servo tables to accommodate different servo types
Range limiting performed in hardware via custom tables
Enclosed in an rugged aluminum housing
Self-powered servos. No need for external power to your servos.
Integrates seamlessly into existing controller network
Includes 110VAC to 12VDC power adapter

Care to elaborate?


i will elaborate...........

Looks just like a firefly module!!!

So now I can look through a bin with 15 FF modules and 1 servo, lol!!

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Ponddude wrote:

Care to elaborate?

Nope. You did a pretty good job of doing that. Seems a bit more sophisticated than the comment "just a servo controller" suggests. No?

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Wait...now I am really confused.

Everything I posted shows that it is a servo controller. I don't consider the case anything impressive, I don't consider the network impressive, I don't consider and every servo controller has 240 levels of controller.

I don't maybe I am missing something, but this controller JUST controls servos.

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I would say that it is just a servo controller card, with very nice feature set for a servo controller card..

Where as the DIO-32 card is far more than just a servo controller card, and I won't be surprised if the servo features are not as extensive.

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Having used Servo's with the CTB08D, I must say that the Servo controller supplying its own 5VDC is sounds like a very nice feature. Other than that, range limiting is the only other feature that I see as translating into something truly useful. I still hold out hope that a future LOR update will allow channel restrictions (on/off only, intensity limiting...) to give this feature to all controllers.

From reading the DIO32 manual, it certainly will do more than Servo control. If if most of the other stuff is above and beyond what you/I do, at the very least it can do 16 servos and 16 standard channels. The question remains, will it be worth it price-wise?

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I thought I would answer some of the questions in this thread and leak some information earlier than I planned. The DIO32 will be on sale during our summer sale, regular price is $149.95 sale price has not been determined (will be less than $149.95). The DIO32’s servo driver module supports many different parameters such as pulse width (for a variety of servos with different ranges). Max and Min values to keep your servo within the range of the installation… etc…

The DIO32 has 4 – 8 channel ports. ( A thru D). Ports C & D have standard 3 pin servo connectors as well as daughter card connectors. You can plug 16 servos directly into ports C & D. You can actually use the other 16 channels for servos resulting in a total of 32 servos BUT you need to wire up your own servo headers for those additional ports because Ports A & B only have the “regular” daughter card headers.

The DIO32 and its family of daughter cards were designed to give people the building blocks to build a variety of different controllers. High power AC, Mechanical relays, servos, etc… You can build a massive 200+ amp, 32 channel controller with the DIO32 which is pretty cool. However while testing the DIO32 we decided that it would be nice to also have a smaller servo card. Specifically the DIO32 would not fit into the base of Light-O-Rama Charlie (the animated puppet that we bring to trade shows). That got us to thinking and we sat down and designed a small card specifically for animatronic applications.

We wanted this card to be compact, run on a single power supply with a wide voltage input range, capable of running off batteries, able to power an ELL for remote operations, able to power a mini-director for sound, capable of driving servos, DC motors, LEDs, have digital logic level outputs and multiple digital inputs. Thus was born the Light-O-Rama “Servo Dog”. “Servo Dog”???? Originally we were going to call it the DO8 and that sort of looks like “Dog” so we were going to call it the “Dog” but better minds prevailed and we decided to call it the “Servo Dog”.

The Servo Dog is neat. It has 8 output channels and 6 input channels. (14 total) It can be daisy chained into a LOR network like any other LOR controller. It has standalone capability with multiple stored sequences so different triggers can do different things. The triggers can also be received by the PC for interactive control. The outputs are not only servo… They can individually be configured as servo or digital output. Two of the channels have high power outputs (like the CMB16 card) and those two channels can be configured as servo, digital output OR PWM channels to control DC motors, LED spots, lights, etc… The Servo Dog supports both LOR and DMX.

The Servo Dog has a single 6 to 12 VDC volt input with a BIG voltage regulator that will supply up to 5 Amps of 5V power for the servos. If you decide to use the two PWM capable channels in PWM mode, you can use logic level PWM signals OR you can provide a secondary voltage up to 60VDC to power those channels.

The Servo Dog will be less than $100 and will start shipping on or before Aug 15, 2009. We will begin accepting pre-orders for the Servo Dog during the Summer Sale. Am I sure about the Aug 15 date? Well yes I am. If you pre-order the Servo Dog during the sale and we are not shipping Servo Dogs by Aug 15 then you will get your pre-ordered Servo Dog(s) for free! (you pay shipping) ….

Dan

Edit: Changed typo in Max Servo Supply Current. Should have been 5, I had 6.

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If I could kiss Dan I would!!

Like I said...LOR's is ALWAYS better!

*watches calendar for June sale*:)

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