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2 hours into playing around and I have not been able to reproduce that clipboard error. Maybe deleting the file and letting S5 recreate it worked??

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I have the issue again... So deleting the file did no good.

@MattBrown Is there any news on getting this fixed?

I am about to scrap this POS software version and roll back to S4. I can't believe I paid for this!

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I can now reproduce the bug... I can't work around it. I have tried many different ways and will not let me paste any more.

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Still dead and in the water as of this morning with S5...

When I copy and paste now... it will take my one grid size and paste it the length of the prop group in a vertical line. In this case my prop group are my 4 circles of 50 pixels each. That's 200 times it will paste.

Here is a quick video of it. https://youtu.be/KEoa1hvwF-8

In the video I grab a small section of white grids to copy just above it. For some reason it pastes to the length of the prop group now.

Then I tried to do just a single red grid and I get the same thing. If I hit CTRL Z, it starts to paste garbage. I did get the error again, but that was after I stopped the video.

Clipboard

A problem occurred while reading the clipboard 'Std Clipboard':

An entry with the same key already exists.

 

When I have more time this evening, I will do a longer video. I need to find my MIC as well. I am pretty frustrated over this so it may be best I don't use a MIC. :)

I also deleted the "std clipboard" file as before. It did no good this time.

Would it be possible for LOR to write me an export of S5 to S4 so I don't lose 3 weeks of work?

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19 hours ago, gsmith37064 said:

Thing is... I am not doing any clipboard work. It's just the standard copy paste that happens to write to the clipboard when you do a copy inside of SE. No external clipboard file has been created or used in S5.

I keep saying this and yet everyone thinks I am using the clipboard. It's just the simple copy paste inside of SE.

I don't  think you understand how the copy and paste feature works. When you select copy in the drop down menu it places all the selected data in the clipboard. by default the std clipboard.LCB, the extension .LCB is the standard LOR clipboard extension use byall versions of SE. when you use the paste feature in the dropdown menu you are pasting the data that is in the std clipboard.LCB file to the sequence. This is why we keep referencing the clipboard.Every time you cut and paste or copy and paste you are using the clipboard. 

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I have learned a lot on how the clipboard works now and I am aware of that, but I consider the clipboard to be what I do with the autoflip program. What SE does behind the scene, is the same thing, but I think most people got the feeling I was using the autoflip and that could have been my problem. It's not. Wish it was to be honest as that's an easy fix... don't use it.

Right now, I want a fix as I can no longer work. Copy and paste is 100 percent borked for me at this point.

I will try to use the autoflip this evening just to see if I can move forward still. That's the only option I have yet to try. Maybe I will get lucky.

 

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No doubt you have found a big bug and the LOR people will fix it. I had a bug develop in the early version of S5 in Windows 7 just before I started running my Halloween show in 2019. I was in panic mode. LOR seem to take forever to find a work around or a fix so I went back to S4 for Halloween. The show went off without a hitch in S4. Soon after the show started they released 5.3.14 that had the fix. S5 ran my 2019 Christmas show with no issues in Windows 7. I was very frustrated as you are. Take a break. The LOR people got this. This bug is a big one and will get fixed soon. I know. I know. Yesterday was not soon enough. 😉

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@Box on Rails

What is v5.3.8 as shown in your LOR Software Version? Is that newer that 5.3.14? I thought I had the latest.

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In the clipboard section of the toolbar, what option is choosen? Paste by time, paste by cell, stretch to fit, repeat to fit?

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I am doing the same thing you are and I am on the same version and it seems to be working correctly, do you have teamviewer installed?

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29 minutes ago, dougd said:

I am doing the same thing you are and I am on the same version and it seems to be working correctly, do you have teamviewer installed?

I do have it installed, but I will not be home till 4:15 pm.

Keep in mind that it ran find for a couple weeks then it started to act up. I was still able to continue on though. Over the past couple days it has gotten worse to the point that I can no longer use copy paste.

I don't know if it has something to do with the redesign on my prop in preview builder. But after it deleted my channels (i have another thread on this issue)... I was trying to fix it and it's using a lot of copy paste functions.

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Did you convert your preview from an S4 preview? I do remember having a few issues early on when I did that. I ended up redoing my preview natively in S5 and a lot of issues I was having went away.

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35 minutes ago, dougd said:

Did you convert your preview from an S4 preview? I do remember having a few issues early on when I did that. I ended up redoing my preview natively in S5 and a lot of issues I was having went away.

Originally it was an S4 animation preview that I did convert over. Some if it still is (mainly just the dumb RGB stuff), but I have redone most of the smart pixel props. The circles have been deleted and redone new in S5 with the custom prop builder.

Wonder if I need to just scrap my preview design and redo it? I am afraid I will lose more of my work though as I thought redoing a prop would have archived off the old channels. Instead it deletes them. LOR needs to add a popup before you save warning you about this. Then the copy paste issued appeared even worse than before and then it broke to where I can no longer use it. Could it be related?

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I do remember early on, just scrapping my S4 imported preview and totally redoing my preview in S5 and letting it rebuild the channels. Basically starting from scratch, sometimes carryover from a  previous version can cause some issues.

I looked in my old sequences folder and I have been using S5 since the middle of 2017. So it has been a while since I did my conversion. I know personally since I am all pixels it was the best thing I did, haven't looked back one time.

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@dougd

I think you are on to something. I can copy paste the other props just fine. The custom circle prop that was redone breaks every time. So it seems that it has to with the preview designer. How or why? Not sure.

But I think we are a step closer to the issue. I am about to test with circle 2 that was NOT modified.

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Circles 1, 2 , and 3 have the copy paste issue. Circle 4 works perfectly. The only circle that was redone to fix the pixel being off was circle 1. So why 2 and 3 are having issues now... not sure.

So I am starting to think its a preview design issue some how.

This evening when I get home, I will copy off the 4 circles to another prop and then delete the circles and then redo all the circles and see if I can paste it back.

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I could not resist the temptation so I remoted back in from work to try it.

I went into preview designer and created 4 new circles off of the old circle 1. Basically I copied it 4 times.

Changed the universe's so there is no conflict and saved it.

Went in SE and added the 4 new circles and copied all the old existing circles over to the new ones. Surprised to see it work.

Saved the sequence

Went back into preview designer and deleted the old group circles then the old circles 1-4.

Renamed the new circles back to what I needed and updated the universe to the correct ones.

Saved it and went back in SE.

Everything seems to be working now. I tried a simple copy paste and it worked.

@dougd A big THANK YOU!!!!!!!! for pointing me in the right direction. @MattBrownSeems the bug is still there from 2017 with the preview designer which causes issues with copy paste.

Now I really have to wait till I get home to verify that the lights on the prop actually work.

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I think this is still an issue that caused my issue.

 

 

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2 hours ago, gsmith37064 said:

@Box on Rails

What is v5.3.8 as shown in your LOR Software Version? Is that newer that 5.3.14? I thought I had the latest.

No not newer. I guess I haven't updated my profile oops. I have 5,3,14

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3 hours ago, gsmith37064 said:

I have learned a lot on how the clipboard works now and I am aware of that, but I consider the clipboard to be what I do with the autoflip program. What SE does behind the scene, is the same thing, but I think most people got the feeling I was using the autoflip and that could have been my problem. It's not. Wish it was to be honest as that's an easy fix... don't use it.

Right now, I want a fix as I can no longer work. Copy and paste is 100 percent borked for me at this point.

I will try to use the autoflip this evening just to see if I can move forward still. That's the only option I have yet to try. Maybe I will get lucky.

 

If you find there is a problem with autoFlip please notify me.   I will research the problem and correct if needed.  

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8 minutes ago, ItsMeBobO said:

If you find there is a problem with autoFlip please notify me.   I will research the problem and correct if needed.  

No issues from Autoflip Bob. It's a GREAT little tool. I have yet to use it in S5. Way to many issues with S5. I was planning on giving autoflip a go this evening to see if I could use it as a work around.

But this particular issue has been identified and it seems it's within the preview designer. Hopefully we will get a response from LOR on this.

I only brought this up because it's the only tool I know of that uses the clipboard.

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AutoFlip will read/modify/create clipboards.     Other pixel tools,   SpEx, PagagayoToLOR and Marquee create clipboards too.   The others create file types,  config.lcs  visualizer.lee.      Message me if anyone needs support on any of these.

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Autoflip works perfectly with S5.

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