Joshb Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 I bought the TSO Showtime central. It came with one light controller and I'm adding 3 other controllers I got from a friend. When I hooked them all together, it says the newest controller is version 1.09, the other 3 units are version 4.40. This is the setup with the preprogrammed sd card. I tried the show on all the controllers individually and the one that's version 1.09 is the only one that functioned properly with the lights, the others blinked very seldom and didn't seem like they were accents to the first 16 at all. Should I update the new controller or leave it alone because it's functioning ok. I just can't understand why the other controllers aren't working with the new one. They tested good and are all recognized on the network. I'm lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Joshb said: I bought the TSO Showtime central. It came with one light controller and I'm adding 3 other controllers I got from a friend. When I hooked them all together, it says the newest controller is version 1.09, the other 3 units are version 4.40. This is the setup with the preprogrammed sd card. I tried the show on all the controllers individually and the one that's version 1.09 is the only one that functioned properly with the lights, the others blinked very seldom and didn't seem like they were accents to the first 16 at all. Should I update the new controller or leave it alone because it's functioning ok. I just can't understand why the other controllers aren't working with the new one. They tested good and are all recognized on the network. I'm lost. It depends on what Generation they are 1,2 and 3. They all are not on the same firmware versions. Also note that Gen 1&2 do not play well with Gen3. Split them into dif networks for favorable if any results. Connect 1&2 together and 3 on their own networks. Is simple just need another adapter. If that's the case when ordering an adaptor get the red highspeed one. The new controller is probably a GEN 3 board. JR Edited October 1, 2019 by dibblejr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Actually the controller with ver 1.09 is a newer gen 3 with the newest firmware. The controllers with ver 4.40 are older gen 2 controllers. Each controller has the highest firmware they can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshb Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 6 hours ago, dibblejr said: It depends on what Generation they are 1,2 and 3. They all are not on the same firmware versions. Also note that Gen 1&2 do not play well with Gen3. Split them into dif networks for favorable if any results. Connect 1&2 together and 3 on their own networks. Is simple just need another adapter. If that's the case when ordering an adaptor get the red highspeed one. The new controller is probably a GEN 3 board. JR I'm using the Showtime central that can only run on one network, but the whole gen3 thing was my problem. I have to get 3 more gen 3 controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, Joshb said: I'm using the Showtime central that can only run on one network, but the whole gen3 thing was my problem. I have to get 3 more gen 3 controllers. I can’t see your license versuon my cell but you can run more than one network if using a computer or one of the directors built for running more than one. Thats a lot cheaper than buying 3 more controllers. If buying especially used ensure to buy gen3. If buying from LOR no worries there but you can run multiple networks. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 OP please update your profile with software version and license level. The four controllers you have will all work on the same network but you can't use high speed which you don't need with the controller you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 Agreed, no need to run two networks for your four controllers. Generation 1, 2, and 3 controllers will work just fine together. The only limitations with the older controllers is they can't run at 500 or 1000k speed and can't run on an enhanced network. Neither is an issue for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. P said: OP please update your profile with software version and license level. The four controllers you have will all work on the same network but you can't use high speed which you don't need with the controller you have. 41 minutes ago, k6ccc said: Agreed, no need to run two networks for your four controllers. Generation 1, 2, and 3 controllers will work just fine together. The only limitations with the older controllers is they can't run at 500 or 1000k speed and can't run on an enhanced network. Neither is an issue for you. You’ll are correct, that’s my bad. All of my networks are 500k enhanced. Thanks for the reminder. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshb Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 2 hours ago, k6ccc said: Agreed, no need to run two networks for your four controllers. Generation 1, 2, and 3 controllers will work just fine together. The only limitations with the older controllers is they can't run at 500 or 1000k speed and can't run on an enhanced network. Neither is an issue for you. I'm running the tso Showtime central which runs the 500k ELOR, so as long as I get gen 3 controllers I'll be good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 57 minutes ago, Joshb said: I'm running the tso Showtime central which runs the 500k ELOR, so as long as I get gen 3 controllers I'll be good You also need a Pro license to run ELOR so please fill in your profile so we can see what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDucks Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 55 minutes ago, Joshb said: I'm running the tso Showtime central which runs the 500k ELOR, so as long as I get gen 3 controllers I'll be good There is Can, and there is Must. Not knowing much (if any) about the TSO package. Does the (purchased TSO ) show require 500K or enhanced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k6ccc Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Joshb said: I'm running the tso Showtime central which runs the 500k ELOR, so as long as I get gen 3 controllers I'll be good Don't need to spend the money (at least not yet). Until you get into pixels, there is ZERO need to run at 500K, and almost zero need to run an enhanced network. The only reason that you would NEED to run an enhanced network is if you are using motion effects (not needed for a display with only a few AC controllers). Use the money for other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshb Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mr. P said: You also need a Pro license to run ELOR so please fill in your profile so we can see what you have. I have the pro that came with the kit, but my laptop encountered a problem with the install disc, so in the meantime I had to download from the website. I'll update it this evening. Edited October 1, 2019 by Joshb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshb Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 53 minutes ago, k6ccc said: Don't need to spend the money (at least not yet). Until you get into pixels, there is ZERO need to run at 500K, and almost zero need to run an enhanced network. The only reason that you would NEED to run an enhanced network is if you are using motion effects (not needed for a display with only a few AC controllers). Use the money for other stuff. I'm running the tso Showtime central and that show does have motion effects. I'm not programming anything yet, just using the sd card right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshb Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, TheDucks said: There is Can, and there is Must. Not knowing much (if any) about the TSO package. Does the (purchased TSO ) show require 500K or enhanced? It stated that some older controllers can't keep up with the 500k running the enhanced LOR. That's in the troubleshooting that I found. I have a buddy with a gen 3 I'm going to try later this evening. I wish I could upload the picture of that paragraph but it's too large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Joshb said: I have the pro that came with the kit, but my laptop encountered a problem with the install disc, so in the meantime I had to download from the website. I'll update it this evening. Pro does not come with the kit Basic Plus does. You have to pay an extra $140 or something like that for the Pro upgrade. Did you pay for Pro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshb Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, Mr. P said: Pro does not come with the kit Basic Plus does. You have to pay an extra $140 or something like that for the Pro upgrade. Did you pay for Pro? You better check again. TSO version 1 came with basic plus. Mine is TSO version 2 that comes with pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Joshb said: You better check again. TSO version 1 came with basic plus. Mine is TSO version 2 that comes with pro. I think you are talking about the controller- not the software. The pro controller is in a metal enclosure. Residential is in a plastic enclosure. Mr. P is referring to the Pro version of LOR software- loom by our user names JR Edited October 1, 2019 by dibblejr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 47 minutes ago, Joshb said: You better check again. TSO version 1 came with basic plus. Mine is TSO version 2 that comes with pro. This is why we are are asking. You never stated any of this in you your original post and your profile isn't filled out so we don't know what you're working with when you ask questions. So no, I don't need to check again. You just need to provide the info if you want any help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibblejr Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mr. P said: This is why we are are asking. You never stated any of this in you your original post and your profile isn't filled out so we don't know what you're working with when you ask questions. So no, I don't need to check again. You just need to provide the info if you want any help. I can’t find any info on what the op refers to. A link to the item would be great. JR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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